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 Posted 10/13/2007  09:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fairj71961 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is it better to buy all slab coins if you can or not and will slab coins keep going up in value and not go down.

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 Posted 10/13/2007  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcook54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that slabs give people a bit more confidence, especially when buying high value coins. Also, when buying from ebay you always run the risk of being taken and a slab reduces this risk. I can't count the number of times that I have heard of a person buying a coin and not being happy with it only to be told "Hey, you saw the picture(s) and now you have the coin." A few pictures can only show so much. However, I buy mostly raw coins because they cost less and have yet to have a really bad experience.

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 Posted 10/13/2007  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

To answer your first question, Some people swear by slabbed coins, others would prefer raw examples.

I am a firm believer in buying the coin, not the slab. I have seen slabbed coins having a higher price than they should cause they were graded by a major TPG.

My best advise to you is to collect what you want. If you prefer all your coins to be in the same kind of slab, then that is what you should do.

What you collect an how you collect is entirely up to you. The best advice I could give you is to know your purchase and not overpay for a coin that is house in a slab.

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 Posted 10/15/2007  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no slabbed coins. I do buy some if the price is right and break out the coins for albums. It is true that a coin in a slab by a reputable organization demands more money when purchasing but if you are a collector, not an investor, makes no difference. I never worry about the future value of any of my coins. Way, way to old to think of a coin collection as an investment. If you are thinking about possibly selling any coins in the future, I would suggest keeping them slabbed. I really don't have to much of a distant future so that a slabbed coin or no slabbed coins is of little concern.
There is one small concern lately with slabbed coins and that is the amount of fake coins and fake slabs appearing. This could eventually drive the slabbed coin market down unless something is done to eliminate that problem.
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 Posted 10/15/2007  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got some good advice from a dealer about slabbing a few months ago. It's not worth it unless the coin has considerable value - over $1000, say. At that level you want to know whether it's real, what it grades, if it's been cleaned, and whether it has any problems that an experienced eye will disclose. These questions should be nagging for a concerned buyer, and ANACS is only $30 for a considered opinion.

Beyond that I'm with just carl. I keep a couple slabbed specimen coins around for grading reference, but the rest are kept raw. I wouldn't pay any premium for a slab, that's for sure. Think about this before you slab: are you going to be selling it soon? If so, and it's high end, slab it. Otherwise, stick it in your pocket. Coins are round because it's a convenient shape for money, not because it's a convenient shap to enbalm in plastic.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 10/15/2007  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilbo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is easier to sell slabbed coins, so if you are buying with the intent to sell, slabbed might be best. I've bought a few slabbed coins, but break them out when I do.

If I were ever to buy a coin worth 4 figures, I'd make sure it was slabbed, primarily for the authentication. I'm not confident that I can spot a fake coin and would want the assurance that it was real. Luckily (?), I don't anticipate the scenario of purchasing a coin for over $1000 in the foreseeable future.

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 Posted 10/15/2007  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FroDaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Recently I've purchased slabbed coins to guarantee I'm buying authentic coins. Once I begin to purchase lower cost coins, I will pursue raw specimens.
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 Posted 10/15/2007  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Funny you should mention this. I purchased an 1815/2 bust half raw (a 1k+ coin) this weekend at a large show that had PCGS, NGC, and ANACS there. I have nothing against slabs, since I own quite a few coins in them. However, I decided against slabbing it. Why? Well, I am 99.9% sure it's authentic. It may have BB'd at PCGS or NGC because of a few light hits in the fields. I didn't need a grading company to tell me that my coin was authentic and grade it when I already knew how to. The money I saved bought another coin.

If it were a key date coin in a series that I am unfamiliar with, however, I would definately buy a slabbed example. I have no idea how to tell an authentic 1916-d from a nicely made fake, and wouldn't risk my money.

Back to your original question. If you are looking to sell a high dollar coin quickly for a profit, absolutely buy it slabbed. But if you're keeping a coin for your own collection and know the series very well, I would not hesitate to buy a coin raw. Also, if a raw coin and the same coin in a slab are priced the same, buy the coin in the slab if they are equally as nice.
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 Posted 10/15/2007  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with everything that has been said in this thread but one thing that has been left out is each slab isn't created equal. If you are a new collector you have to be very careful because some sellers on ebay are dealers and all they do is buy plastic cases and inser their own stock (sometimes it looks like they take their own pocket change and inset them into the plastic holders) and then they will put a grade on a label that makes new collectors think the coin has actually been graded by a reputable Third Party Grading Company when in fact it is a one man operation and they know a MS-65 coin will bring more money than a XF-45 coin so they put the grade on the label as MS-65 and if the new collector can't grade or tell if a coin is authentic they get burnt badly. I have seen these type of slabbed coins very highly over graded but even worse I have seen them with counterfeit coins in them. So my advice for a new collector that isn't sure about how to grade or authenticate I would have to tell them to stick with PCGS, NGC,ANACS,NCS or ICG graded coins just to be sure the grade is atleast a separate persons opinion besides the person that owns the coin and is just slapping them in plastic and grading it what ever they think will get them the most money for their own inventory
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I saw a lot of mentioning about PCGS, NGC,ANACS,NCS and ICG but not PCI. I saw some good coins graded by PCI.

Yesterday, I went to the local coin show and cruise around... My coin dealer has a PCI MS65 Lincoln 1995 DDO that he got for $40 and willing to sell to me for $50. I didn't take his offer, not because it's in PCI slab, just because I have no money...

Anyone had any experiences/knowledge regarding PCI slabbed coins? Please share.
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 Posted 10/16/2007  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I buy most of my coins raw. I am fairly confident of my own ability to judge whether a coin is genuine, and what it's approximate grade is.

However, my parents like to purchase coins for me every now and then as gifts. As they know nothing about coins, I have told them to ONLY purchase a coin if it is in a PCGS, NGC or ANACS holder.

I have found that this works well to keep them from being taken for a ride!

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 Posted 10/16/2007  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add inacoffeebuzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I buy a mix of raw and slabbed. I don't buy high value coins >$100, so I usually see no need to get a slabbed coin just for the authentification (if that's a word). That being said, I would be much more inclined to buy a slabbed coin as the price of the coin rises. I buy each coin based on it own merits and the slabbing for me is just another method of verifying its authenticity.
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 Posted 10/16/2007  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I saw a lot of mentioning about PCGS, NGC,ANACS,NCS and ICG but not PCI. I saw some good coins graded by PCI.

It appears that some time back I never saw a slabbed coin. Then the odd looking piece of plastic with a PCGS name on it started to appear. Not sure if they were first, but like so many other things, TPG services are poping up faster than coins it seams. I thought I heard of PCI but not sure. Just way to many and now with the fakes, imitations, counterfeits of coins and slabs, I would stay away from a slabbed coin from someone you never heard of. Might be OK, but why take chances. Although $50 if in MS-64 or 5 might not be to bad but if in reality it's badly over graded, then what?
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 Posted 10/16/2007  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tmor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like to purchase "raw" coins for my albums and "slabbed" coins in higher MS grades. I like the authentication for my key date coins, but I am concerned that counterfeiters will soon (if not already) start counterfeiting slabs. A fake plastic holder can't be much more difficult than a fake gold coin, can it?
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Hi tmor. Sadly fake slabs are already in the marketplace. I have read reports of fakes of all the major TPGS. Always try and buy from a reputable dealer and when you can make sure to at least check the slab I.D. with the coin on the TPGS register. You can still end up with a tampered holder (coin changed). It is still wise to learn as much as you can about what your buying. Having said all that Major TPGS offer some measure of protection. Mike
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 Posted 10/17/2007  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slabs to me are mainly a nuisance. Just additional packaging with an extra associated cost which is unwanted and is pain to open like child-proof caps and music CDs. A hard plastic barrier which prevents me from holding, examining and fully appreciating the coin. Furthermore I don't have any confidence in 30 second unsigned opinions of anonymous "experts", especially with regards to ancients and world coins.
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