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What's Your System For Finding Coin Errors, Etc

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 Posted 03/08/2015  12:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am curious to know how you all go about finding errors.

Since I am new and do not have a great grasp of what years have errors or what to really look for, I sort my coins by years, then I put them under the microscope to look for errors, die cracks, anything unusually, etc....

Yes, It does take very long time and I have bags and bags of coins.
Hopefully it will go quicker as I get better at it.

Just curious, How do you do it?
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 Posted 03/08/2015  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It depends on what kind of coins we're talking about here.

When I was first roll hunting, I'd look at everything under a microscope.

Then, I learned that some dates didn't have significant errors or varieties, and also that if they did, most were not visible to the naked eye.

Now, I just look at dates with possible errors/varieties with a small loupe.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, just modern coins.
I figured I would have them by dates, so when I learn of a particular error or variety, I can at least with ease, go through those and then either hold onto it or put them back in the economy.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What specific coin series are you looking at?

Lincoln Cents, for example, have a multitude of repunched mintmarks and doubled dies that can be found.

coppercoins.com is a great resource for Lincoln varieties.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well right now, I have pennies, nickels, dimes and qrts.
There are so many sites, with errors and varieties, I would just work one at a time. For example, Wisconsin state error qtrs, etc.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recommend studying as many sites and books as you can. I also recommend focusing on one denomination at a time and learn what a "normal" coin should look like,then when you come across a coin that just doesn't look right your eye will catch it right away. Then you can examine that coin further. Good luck on your hunt.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The ones who find the new varieties are the ones who look at everything.
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I just checked out that coppercoins.com site but it looks like there are dead links to the error page so I can't view it. Anyone have any other resources for LWC/LWC errors?

Yesterday I busted out my bag of 83/84 (ear/doubled die on One Cent), 92 (CAM), 98,99,2000s ( WAM)s and found nothing at all. I probably had 500 coins or so saved up. Wish I had found something!
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http://lincolncentresource.com/
500 or so coins and found nada. I have been through 1.3+ million . Keep the faith they are out there, Good luck to you.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a great resource.. thanks John1!
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 Posted 03/08/2015  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you look in what is called the Red Book by Whitman Publishing, 2015 edition, pages 421 and up there is a lot of photos and explanations about errors. The person that has the web site called coppercoins.com has two books out on just Lincoln Cents with many pages showing many errors and photos of them. Naturally also there are numerous other web sites for error coins.
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Myself, I don't look for them anymore. I did at one time and eventually ended up with several boxes of error coins. Then one day I said to myself, SELF, what are you doing? Didn't know so stopped saving errors.
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 Posted 03/09/2015  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loopy Looker74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am new to this too and what I have found is that list's of error's,date's and varieties can differ on different sites,you may find description of varieties for a specific coin on one site and find there are a couple of more or less on another.
Just remember what John1 said is an amazing tip that you have to know what a coin is supposed to look like to be a able to distinguish something that is not meant to be there.
I found myself getting excited about errors on coins which turned out not to be an errors at all,your eyes may work overtime but it can be worth it in the end.Good luck hunting and enjoy.
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 Posted 03/09/2015  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Just remember what John1 said is an amazing tip that you have to know what a coin is supposed to look like to be a able to distinguish something that is not meant to be there.


This isn't a "tip," it's the fundamental reality, the foundation upon which all of numismatics rests.
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 Posted 03/09/2015  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loopy Looker74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My apologies mr SsuperDdave for using the word "tip",I just wanted to emphasise how important it is to know the "normal" design,as a beginner myself to coin collecting and forums I am yet to learn the correct terminology.
It seems I have something in common with "mints",we both make errors.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've concentrated on a single series (2 cent pieces) for so long, I guess I've just figured out what I'm looking for at coin shows, auction sites and in photos on ebay or similar sights. Other series I employ basic knowledge I've learned through taking classes at ANA Summer Seminars or by reading and studying various books and websites.

Bill Fivaz & JT Stanton were both teaching the basics of variety collecting at Summer seminars when I first started to attend them in the early/mid 1980's "The Cherrypicker Guide" was in it's 2nd edition as I recall, and not very many people were actively looking for varieties back then. In fact one of the breakout sessions we had a couple of times, was "Is collecting by die varieties the future of coin collecting?" Bill Fivaz was really one of the first to bring this style of collecting to the forefront of the hobby, quickly followed by Rick Snow and Brian Wagner with the Fly-In club (Flying Eagle and Indian Head cents), die variety collecting really took off with the push by Jeff Oxman and Michael Fey and their joint publication the "TOP 100 VAMs."

Come to think about it I was lucky enough to have taken courses with each one of the guys mentioned above at their earliest classes at Summer Seminars, usually right before their first books had been published, guess I was lucky in being ahead of the curve!

One thing they all teach is learn as much about how a coin made from blank strips of metal through the finished product. Learning each step of the minting process will help you to better understand how varieties are created, and after looking at so many coins, who knows you may even find undiscovered treasures out there.

When sitting down and looking at coins, I use a magnifying lamp on a swing arm, (when it's a large amount of coins), it's probably 5x (you can find these cheap, $25.00 or so, at most office supply stores), My trusty B&L 7x APO Triplet loupe is my most used tool, then I have a 30x Panasonic handheld pocket microscope (great for double dies) a fairly decent stereo microscope (1.2-30x) and my Camera set-up with macro lenses, and a bellows. Sometimes as I've gotten older, I can see stuff on a big 30" monitor better than I can through optics, my eyes aren't as good as they used to be 20 years ago.

Books, books and more books! I did a quick count and come up with about 50 different books on die varieties of various coin series I use regularly, books that are on my bookshelf nearby at all times, for reference. They cover only 8 types of US coin series. One can never have enough good reference books to check against.

Half Cents: Cohen, Manley, Breen, Heim
Large Cents: Noyes, Sheldon, Breen, Grellman, Wright, Neiswinter, Boka, Adams, Newcomb
Flying Eagle & Indian Head cents: Snow, Flynn
Two Cent: Leone, Flynn
Three Cent: Flynn
Dimes: Ahwash, Flynn
Half Dollars: Overton, Parsley
Silver Dollars: Harrison, Flynn, Roberts, Oxman, Fey, Van Allen & Mallis, Bowers, Hartnett, Kimpton,

General: Fivaz, Stanton, Bressett, Yeoman, Breen, Bowers, Thurman, Flynn, Adams, Crosby

And don't discount old auction catalogs for the great quality of photos and collections of certain series that have sold, some are landmark sales I use all the time, especially for my Half Cent and Large Cent studies/research of die varieties.

Plus quite a few websites are bookmarked, I also keep files folders full of certain articles I come across in magazines, newsletters, online print outs, etc.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector.

See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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 Posted 03/10/2015  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One interesting fact about error coins is in place like that Red Book and many other sources for errors, not a lot mentioned about rotated reverses. Those are what started me on collecting errors. They are difficult to find due to so few people even knowing that a USA coin is SUPPOSED to be so that when you turn them over, top to bottom, still right side up. Other countries have them so they would be upside down doing that. Oddly enough so many of the older coins are all messed up with that rotation of the reverses. Mercury dimes and Buffalo nickels are possibly the worse. I would think that about 20 to 25% of all Mercury dimes have a rear rotation of somewhat of a degree. Look for them. It's fun.
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