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Penny With Two Reverses

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 Posted 10/22/2007  10:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add blueczar1512 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was just sorting through the last coins in my collection of British pennies, and putting them together by obverse, when I noticed that one of them didnt have an obverse! This coin has an 1896 reverse on one side and 1901 reverse on the other. However it is about 50% thicker than a regular penny, and slightly bent, so I thought someone might have put it together? although theres no trace of a line or anything on the edge.

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its a pity the video camera doesn't focus up close but here is a video http://youtube.com/watch?v=sNEOyPlSPqE
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 Posted 10/23/2007  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, with extra thickness and dates 5 years apart, it's certainly not an official mint error. By my reckoning, it's either:

(a) a split'n'splice job, with the join between the two half-coins cleverly concealed by mechanism unknown; perhaps the seam is hidden just inside the beaded rim on one side or the other, but I can't see it on the pics.

(b) a fake cast coin, made with two reverses; the video seems to show a slight central bulge, which lends itself to this theory. It would be a lot of trouble to make a fake double-sided penny in this way, but a trickster might find such a coin more useful than a splicer. If this is true, there should be the remnants of the casting sprue somewhere around the rim; tell-tale file marks in one spot would be evident.
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 Posted 10/23/2007  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blueczar1512 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I think there is a slight bulge in the middle, in addition to it being a little bent. Maybe it has something to do with the rim worn away at the top of the 1896 side? Have you seen double-sided coins before? I certainly haven't so it was quite a suprise! I wonder why they did it.
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Maybe it was done to win on the 'flip' of a coin if you constantly chose 'tails'?
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Yes I would say the the year difference and the extra thickness point towards being post mint made. I agree with Sap, and casey is right about the winning in a flip contest part also they are sometimes called magicians coins.
Real two sided or two tailed coins are very rare and even though they are classed as an error they are certainly made knowingly at the mint because you have to set up two of the same dies. They are probably made to test dies.
Here is a picture of one I own:
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here is a article on PCGS's website about magician coins by Ken Potter http://www.pcgs.com/articles/articl...iverseid=313 Another thing that is popular in the US is people making Mule coins which consists of an obverse oif one denomination and the reverse of another denomination, these became popular when the mint actually made this mistake with the quarter and the Sacagawea dollar. I have seen these being made and they are very hard to detect if someone was actually trying to deceive another but if you ever find anything that looks like this coin you definately want to take a closer look http://www.coinfacts.com/error_coin...wea_mule.htm
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