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1879-S Morgan Please Grade

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 Posted 10/23/2007  08:49 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I posted this before, but the pictures were not very good.
these show the coin like it looks in hand.

Should I send this to be graded/Slabbed?

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 Posted 10/23/2007  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to weight the way the coin looked in the first pictures taken along with these and I think MS-64 would be a good guess on this one. The lighting you used this time made the coin look a whole lot better than it did with the first pictures you took
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 Posted 10/23/2007  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like you got yourself a great example there. I really like it. I'm thinking MS65.
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 Posted 10/23/2007  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easily a 64. But I think you have a very good shot at 65
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 Posted 10/23/2007  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice, a shot at MS65 for sure.
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 Posted 10/23/2007  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very nice looking coin with exceptional fields. Depending on what you paid for it, I would say slabbing wouldn't be too bad of a deal. Third reverse of this date in 65 are listed at ~200 I think, and I would put this at 65 to be honest.

I didn't see the pictures that Bryan is referring to that didn't make this coin look as nice? Judging by these pictures alone, and with the assumption that they were not doctored in any way, I'm struggling to see why anyone wouldn't go as high as MS66 for this. This coin is crazy clean, and I have seen 64's with some serious marks on the cheek.

Is it the "frost breaks" making people stay "low", if that's what the close up is for? Forgive my ignorance.......
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 Posted 10/23/2007  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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assumption that they were not doctored in any way


The only thing done with the pictures is crop/resize. the original pictures are 3.6 megabytes

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I am showing these just so everyone will know what two pictures I weighed together, I do want to let everyone know that 7070 said the coin was still in the holder in these first pictures

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10/24/2007 09:31 am
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 Posted 10/24/2007  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryan1315,
I was going to post a link, you beat me to it.
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I was debating giving a link but figured I would just go ahead and post the pictures so they wouldn't have to go to the other thread to see the pictures, they could see them all in this one thread
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? Is this the same coin?!! Wow. Either all of the marks on the latest photos are on the holder, or your camera takes really "soft" pictures. I see what looks like chatter marks around her eye on the holder picture, but it looks clean as can be in the first post.

I'm confused....a lot!!
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 Posted 10/25/2007  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
tights24
I added a detail view of the eye for your review.
Do keep in mind the amount of magnification the detail view provides. much greater than 10x.
The eye in the photo is larger than the coin that we are grading, and it is a large coin.

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Either all of the marks on the latest photos are on the holder, or your camera takes really "soft" pictures.


The Depth of field is really shallow with a macro lens wide open.
"focus on the coin not the holder" == words to live by
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I don't know how this wouldn't be a solid 65 bordering on 66. I am certainly no expert, but I have seen quite a few slabbed morgans by the top TPG's. I think there have been better "strikes" per say out there, but this to me is just a great example of a "clean" looking coin. Maybe I'm using market grading standards instead of older standards.....
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I look at these pictures and also look at his picture of the quarter he took with and without his piece of glass he positioned at a angle in front of his camera and can see where there is allot of deception that can be done with the right kind of equipment and a little trial and error when you are trying to grade from photos. Here is a link to that thread for all who haven't seen it, pretty impressive what a piece of glass can do to a photo https://goccf.com/t/20615
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 Posted 10/25/2007  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryan1315, did you see the detail photo I posted (today) on that thread?
All the bumps and warts in all their glory, This photo technique does not hide them, in fact, a case could be made that it is easier to see physical defects in the coin.
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