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British Trade Dollars From China

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 Posted 10/27/2007  10:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add inacoffeebuzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
On my recent trip to China I bought these British Trade dollars. I figure they were a reasonable buy at around $30 each and since I was in the locale it seemed apropos to get some (where better to buy Trade dollars than where they were meant to be used?).

Since the weights and dimensions check out I figure they are as real as you can get. The dealer had a dozen or so in F to EF grade and a couple in BU that he let me look at, but knew were out of my price range . My pics really don't do justice to the coins (my hands shake a bit). Also, I was considering using acetone to remove some of the goo on the 1909, but have considered against it. Let me know your thoughts. Enjoy the pics!

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P.S. See the US coins forum for my post of some of my other acquisitions.
P.S.S. Also please check out my contest in the contest forum!
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 Posted 10/27/2007  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you were willing to pay a bit more, I believe my local dealers had few genuine coins of such in VF+ for perhaps slightly over double the value - that is if I remember the price right.
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 Posted 10/28/2007  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JRC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you did well. They are beautiful.
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 Posted 10/29/2007  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add inacoffeebuzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the links gxseries - you've got a lot of excellent British Trade dollars .

Since I am still relatively new to this series, I would appreciate any hints in recognizing fakes.
The things I know to look for are; if the details are missing (the tiny mint marks and the ship lines in particular), if the Britannia figure looks odd (I have seen some "fat lady" coins as I call them", if the script on the back is thicker than what it should be, if the reeding is present and regular, and if the color of the metal looks odd. Obviously when I have them I weigh and measure, which is also a good indicator (when combined with careful observation). Any other things you check?

Thanks again!
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 Posted 10/29/2007  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
inacoffeebuzz - You certainly have the standard elements down pat. I would suggest adding a caution about wide rims - molds will often shrink and counterfeiters add a small amount to the diameter at the rim. Diameter should be measured inside - on the die face. Collar seams while possible are usually not seen - look for any irregularities if you see some. Also you should be cautious of the obvious signs of casting - pebbled surfaces or numerous fine raised lines in the field caused by polishing the molds. Lastly I would look for sharp edges on all struck features and especially on the transition between the die faces and the edge reeding. Rounded corners with grinding marks are a dead give away for a forgery.

Finally, don't shop in bazaars or flea markets and don't buy Bargain coins. Deal with people you know and who will still be there if you ever find out you have a fake.
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 Posted 10/29/2007  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://goccf.com/t/20942

This link is posted in Uk section looks like a similar coin
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