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Standing Liberty Quarters?

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Anyone here collect them? I never really paid too much attention to them but have been doing a little reading and they sure seem like a cool set to complete. I do take it though, that in higher grades they are pretty expensive? Maybe after I finish the Barbers these might be a good choice in addition to the Lrge Cents I am working on, I always like to have a 20th century set going if I can.

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I am currently collecting the Standing Liberty quarters and it is slow going. While I do have a few AU and Unc examples I have made up my mind NOT to pass anything up that I don't have in my album. Some of them, even in low grades, are rather pricey so I take what I can get at my local dealer and always keep an eye out for an upgrade! Shame we couldn't have been wise enough years ago to start when they were relatively cheap!!!
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 Posted 02/12/2005  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tonphil1960 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Terry, I guess I would be satisfied with Fine or better if possible. I have nothing against circ. coins, in fact I think they have character!Love em...

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Here are some nice ones that you can add to your photo collection.

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Absolutely one of the most beautiful designs in my humble opinion. I had the honor of seeing and holding one of the patterns for this coin. The original design is nothing short of breathtaking.
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 Posted 02/12/2005  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tonphil1960 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nat, Yes beautiful indeed, I agree with the design the more I study them the more I like them. Don't think I could go with those grades though.
What ya think a set in F would run, ballpark, I know I could look it up but if you can give it to me off the top of your head?
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Let's see:

1916 $6850.00
1917 $40.00
1918-7 $3000.00

Give or take a few bucks either way.


The ones in the pics.

MS-65 FH
MS-66 FH
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A full set in good-very good has a bid of $2650.00 with no overdate included
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Hi Nat, Yeah I was reading Coin World last night and they had an article on the SLQ. Col. Bill Murray writes that a complete year set can be had for $1050.00 in EF including both 1917's. Should be a nice short year set.

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A complete year set is very easy and cheap. If you leave out the 1916 which is ten grand is XF. Without the varieties, the only dates that command good money in XF are the 1923-S, 1927-S which run about 650 and 800 respectively.
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Just thought I would start a brawl since everythings so quiet. Here is the question...

Who authorized the cover up of Lady Liberty in 1917 on the Standing Liberty quarter. Please, I'm looking for the name of the person or their title.

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As the complaints were received by Treasury Secretary William McAdoo, I will guess that he also authorized the change, although it passed through Congress for final approval.
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Sorry Susan. No brass ring today

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From what I can find, the alteration to Liberty's breast was illegal and not written into law anywhere.

The other changes (increasing the concavity of the fields, repositioning the eagle higher, placing 3 of the 13 stars under the eagle, and respacing the inscriptions) were authorized in Public Law 27 which was the result of a bill introduced by William Ashbrook, Chairman of the House Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures.

The addition of the chain-mail type armor to cover her breast was not legally authorized but resulted from pressure brought to bear on the Mint by the Society for the Suppression of Vice.
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Hold on here folks, as the Type 1 coins did not match the original designs, the whole "public outcry" is more legend than fact.
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Hello Susan, ND,

You are both correct. There was no authorization to cover up Liberty's breast. ND is 100% correct that the Public Outcry is only a legend that can be traced back only to the 1920's.

I was a friend of Walter Breen's when he was living in Berkely, CA. This was one issue that I could always get his goat on. Walter believed that the cover up was done because there were a bunch of prudes in office at the time. However he would readily admitt that there was no documentation to back it up.

I kept telling him it was done for political reasons under the table. In 1916 the first woman was elected to congress. I believe she was from WY. Also Susan B. Anthony and the girls were on a full swing and we were in a world war at the same time. I told Walter that Teddy asked that it be covered up so that if needed the party could used it as a political tool. However they didn't really want the issue out front because someone might ask why did you have a nude in the first place. So undercove of the law to change the reverse the obverse was changed also.Without the fanfare.

Walter's hair would stand on end. (as if it didn't already) Because mine was just a theory like his and everyone else's. There are those who claim the have the real answer but they don't. As far as I know today the greatest mystery in modern numismatic's is Who Covered Miss Liberty..?

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