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New Member
United States
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I picked this up for $200 when I was home in Germany, there are little if any marks on it, just some light ones on the obverse, I was thinking about submitting it for grading, I am no use at grading gold, I am always too conservative, all comments welcome, Thanks Image:  aa_1_b.jpg41.63 KB Image: 7b_1_b.jpg42.64 KB |
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Forum Mom
 United States
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First of all, I'd say you got a great deal at $200. I am somewhat "gold grading challenged" but my opinion would be EF-AU. Hopefully Ageka will be along soon. He's great at grading gold from pics.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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MS-62-63
Looks like a real nice coin !! I would make it a firm 63 if the lustre is better than the scan shows.
But like susan I'm challenged a bit by gold coins !! I'm usually to liberal !!
Rick
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Ok I sharpened and recolored took away the excess lighting and gave more contrast So that I could compare with one of my standards In the condition it is I would say AU58 But I feel there is a lot of fingergrease on the coin I know people that would not hesitate to dunk it in acetone for a few hours The problem is the lustre is too exagerated around the lettres to get it a MS grade and acetone might even out that "problem" I see no wear only grease But at the price you got it , it is a steal in that condition dealers in brussels offer 228 to buy today  |
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New Member
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Thanks everyone for the feedback... ageka...are you "recommending" I dunk it in acetone? Its not something I have ever done to any of my coins and am wary about the effect it might have
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi Ageka
What grading standard are you using ?
The reference that I was using for MS-62-63 is some contact marks in prime focal areas, impaired luster is possible .
with no wear and impaired luster I dont see how this coin can be graded as AU, which indicates that wear is present ?
AU-55 evidence of friction on design high pints some mint luster present ?
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Forum Mom
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Originally posted by smcc3573
Thanks everyone for the feedback... ageka...are you "recommending" I dunk it in acetone? Its not something I have ever done to any of my coins and am wary about the effect it might have
Acetone will not harm noble metals (gold, silver, platinum). Be sure to use pure acetone (not nail polish remover) and let it air dry. It will completely evaporate from the coin leaving no residue. DO NOT WIPE. Hope this helps. |
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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quote:
Originally posted by smcc3573
Thanks everyone for the feedback... ageka...are you "recommending" I dunk it in acetone? Its not something I have ever done to any of my coins and am wary about the effect it might have
As Susanlynn stated Acetone will not "harm" your coin If there was too much fat or dirt to dissolve you may have to do it twice or three times before it dries without leaving a trace But I get a litre bottle for 2.5 euro so it is cheap However the coin may either look better or the coin may look worse if very minor bagmarks suddenly are catching the light So in general we put uncirculateds into acetone without thinking about it and they come out looking better With XF we shurely do not do that routinely because most will look worse the grease having hid the defaults Allthough I did a Charles X 1830 coin I thought was XF and it came out AU because the missing details in the laurel leafs were there but filled with grease and after the acetone they proudly showed So AU is the twilight zone ; will it come out MS64 or will it come out truely AU58 or a grade lower Whoops had to change my 1830 french coin ; had the wrong king Edited by ageka
08/31/2005 1:13 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Originally posted by Metalman
Hi Ageka
What grading standard are you using ?
The reference that I was using for MS-62-63 is some contact marks in prime focal areas, impaired luster is possible .
with no wear and impaired luster I dont see how this coin can be graded as AU, which indicates that wear is present ?
AU-55 evidence of friction on design high pints some mint luster present ?
Ok I learned grading from my friend who would correct me and point out why I was wrong
We have been hunting unslabbeds for nearly two years now and they all come back same or better from NCG
So I learned without reading definitions
On an MS coin you may get away with a certain amount of Cabinet slide and still be MS
However very high lustre around high points like those stars indicate handling and you may not get away with handling
Can one hundred people handle an MS coin on both sides without reducing it to AU ?
Since I do not use definitions but know what we get away with and what we do not get away with I may be quoting the wrong source
but when I need definitions I use following link
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On the A.U. coin, the lustre will be visibly broken, and this break will be noticeable without magnification.
http://www.coingrading.com/grdproc1.htmlEdited by ageka
08/31/2005 1:33 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Also notice how little lustre is showing between the eye and the nose which is a deep point
That little bit of lustre that is showing suggests the rest is gone
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Posted 08/30/2005 1:26 pm
