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Who's Up For A Trip To Venice?

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Western European medieval history is one of my "things" but I haven't really totally expanded into post-Carolingian West European coinage yet. But I immediately became attracted to this silver coin of 13th century Venice as soon as I first laid eyes on it. Hopefully I did ok by paying $25 for it.

Venice was founded by people fleeing from barbarians during the Western Roman Empire's decline and fall. Originally in the Byzantine orbit, over time, this small town grew into an economic powerhouse, with a strong military (especially its navy) to protect it and its interests abroad. Venice's success was in part due to its monopoly on trade between Europe and Asia/Africa, which had severely declined in the 7th century due to the Muslim conquests. This success in turn (and from other important trading cities such as Genoa) helped stimulate the economic revival of Western Europe after the 9th century. Venice as an independent entity ended in 1797 with Napoleon's invasion of Italy.

Doge Reneiro Zeno, Republic of Venice
AR Grosh
Obv: Christ enthroned, facing, wearing nimbus and holding book of gospels.
Rev: RA CENO DVX - S M VENETI, doge standing left and receiving banner from Saint Mark standing right, holding book of gospels.
Mint: Venice (struck 1253-1268)
Ref: Gamberini 32; Biaggi 2775

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(Can't help but get Assassin's Creed II vibes from this coin )


Map of SW Europe+North Africa in 1200 (Venice is the dark purple between the Adriatic and the dark orange Holy Roman Empire):

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 Posted 03/11/2015  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice!

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 Posted 03/12/2015  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Always such excellent write ups. That's a lot of coin for $25, very nice
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These days you are better off if you don't visit as a tourist.
Far too many visitors. I know; I visited.
It is a bit like a main terminus railway station in India, during rush hour.

If you collect coins, just study and enjoy Venetian coins.
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AS always a very informative write up. Wish I could fine one as nice as this for $25. Excellent coin.
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Far too many visitors. I know; I visited.
I recently watched a show on Venice and it was said that there were usually more tourists than actual residents, also that Venetians are moving out.

Thanks all for the comments!
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Neat coin. I don't have one of these. I have seen quite a few with various attributions for not alot of money.
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I've been stalking of these for about a year now...25 bucks is great for that coin. excellent coin VK, id pay double what you did for it.
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The absolute best book of recent publication on these types of coins is:
Paolucci, R. Le Monete Dei Dogi Di Venezia - The Coinage of the Doges of Venice, 2nd Edition. (Padova, 2001).


Good luck locating it. I think I pursued that book for 6 years before I could locate a copy (sigh). Once I did I kept an eye out for it and when someone in Italy had some copies I paid the exorbitant postage to get 5 copies shipped to me so that I could share with collectors of the coins. Those books left quickly!

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It looks better if you click to enlarge the photos. Even then, the photos do not do justice to such a nice coin:

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 Posted 03/23/2015  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Things are getting a bit medieval right now so... Bump!
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Yea they are!

Your photo is a thousand time better. Curious what is the weight and diameter? After reading "Reading Medieval European Coins" by Ralph S. Walker, I feel a lot more comfortable reading the legends on these types of coins. Sometime the font on these medieval coins get hairy.
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