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Moved to get needed help and exposure from our world coin experts. Dahoov(Sue) has a great opening "hello" in the variety section Dahoov's "hello".
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 Posted 10/31/2007  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dahoov2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Foreign Coins 3 of ten. I won't post the flip sides (photos 4-6) unless someone thinks they are worth posting. Just let me know. If anyone sees anything they are interested in seeing a closer image, let me know.

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 Posted 10/31/2007  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another photo from dahoov2. Just want to identify what looks like an ancient coin. I just didn't want to break up her pictures everywhere. God knows Sap among others should be able to just walk through and identify everything anyway. Which hopefully includes authenticity on this one....

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 Posted 10/31/2007  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Roman one appears to be a late-period Roman coin of Constantine the Great, early 300's AD; we'd need to see the other side to get more of an idea on that one.

For the world coins, they're mostly modern circulation coins. Interesting to a collector, but not very valuable; a dollar or two at most. To aid with identification, you've got coins from:

Great Britain - the ones with Queen Elizabeth's portrait and words around the portrait that say "D:G:REG:F:D".

Germany - the ones that say "Bundesrepublik Deutschland".

Netherlands - the ones that say "Nederlanden".

Bahrain is a small island nation in the Persian Gulf. All their coins have "Bahrain" in English on them.

Jordan - the ones with Arabic writing around the portrait of a man (he's the King of Jordan).

European Union - there are a few euro coins there, like Ireland (Eire). The non-euro German and Dutch coinage you have there is now obsolete; these countries now issue euro coinage only.

Belgium - just one, I think, 3 down 2 across on picture 3. Now obsolete, too.

Australia - just the one I can see, the yellow one 3 down 7 across on picture 1. A $1 coin with the Queen on one side; it should have kangaroos on the other.

Oman - one for sure, 2 down 8 across on picture 3, probably others too. I believe all Omani coins have the country's name in English.

Some dealers trade in foreign coins, some don't. Banks and currency exchange places don't want to know either. If you don't see yourself becoming interested in world coins, my best suggestion is to give them to a young collector.
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Thanks Sap.
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 Posted 11/01/2007  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dahoov2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Thanks Sap.. You are fast and good. I am amazed! I did not know I had any Aussie. Belgium, Germany etc coins. I have no idea where they came from. My husband went to Jordan and Oman (worked in the Embassy there for a year as he was Air Force). He stopped in England for a few days during the first Gulf war, so maybe that's where the English coins come from. I didn't think any were rare. I did see one very large "Penny" in there that had a date of 1916.

I think once my hubby went into Germany (only airport) so maybe that. I have a few Canadian dollars and some Canadian pennies (one is different with a bid on the back rather than the maple leaf). I didn't scan those. I figured they weren't valuable but I am so excited just to know what the heck they are! I might save the coins for the grandbaby or if I find a collector I meet sometime, maybe do that.

One question... on the European Union coins, because they are obsolte, will they ever become collectible and worth saving? Or will they be like Confederate dollars and worthless?

I am so excited about the Roman coin. I know it's not valuable either, but I LOVE history and especially Roman, Greek and Egyptian history, so owning something from a time I love to learn about is magical to me. I've scanned in the backside. Is it what you said? Should I preserve this somehow or not worry as it's not worth the trouble. Then again, last night someone said that people forged coins; especially ancient ones to sell to tourists. I am thinking it's possible that's what this coin may be. My husband told me just now that he is the one who had that; he got it either in Petra or the port of Acaba (Aqaba) while overseas. Some vendor there who actually had a bowl of them or something.

Thanks for the help; it's appreciated.

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 Posted 11/01/2007  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The full attribution for the Roman coin would be:
Constantine the Great, AE3 (that's the denomination - we don't really know what the ancient Romans called these coins, so we classify them my size), circa 320 AD. Obverse, helmeted and curiassed bust facing right, legend CONSTANTINVS AVG. Reverse: two captives seated either side of banner inscribed VOT XX, legend VIRTVS EXERCIT (meaning "Virtue of the Army"), additional letters S left, F right, the mintmark DSIS* in the exergue indicates the mint of Siscia, located in what is now Croatia. Here's an example on the Wildwinds reference site.

The next question is, of course, "Is it real?". My two concerns in this regard are:

1. The general fuzziness of the appearance of the coin. Such graininess and lack of sharpness of detail can be caused by the method a cast fake coin is manufactured, although it is possible that peculiar burial conditions and/or improper cleaning of the coin after it was dug up can make a genuine coin look like that, too.

2. The provenance - the story of how you acquired it. Both Israel and Jordan have laws forbidding the sale of genuine antiquities. Of course, such laws are only as good as the police and courts have the resources to uphold them, but the existence of such laws usually prevents street hawkers from openly selling bowlfuls of genuine ancient coins to tourists.

Both of these factors together combine to make me skeptical about the authenticity of this one.

As for the obsolete European coinage: being made of metal, coins never become completely worthless, as postage stamps and banknotes are prone to becoming. Certainly the introduction of the euro and withdrawl of all the old national currencies has created collector interest in Europe, just as the introduction of the State Quarters has done in the USA. However, in most cases, these coins are likely to remain far too common for the forseeable future to be considered "rare". In a hundred year's time, who knows - just like Confederate currency is nowadays often worth much more than face value to a collector, even though they're obsolete and officially "worthless" for use as money.
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Well, hubby said while in some of the desolate areas, there were a few street type vendors who claimed to have authentic stuff. I understand all that is supposedly illegal and also highly suspect (Egypt must really be horrible). According to the locals he drove with way out there in the hills, they did warn him of these vendors but did say many of the local tribes are what sell there (there were only a couple total anyway; it wasn't like a market) and they actually have found some artifacts. Apparently, Romans travelled there frequently etc. Who knows. I'll keep it anyway; if from that era, pretty cool.

I don't think my husband was allowed in Isreal. The port was from the other side. He could see the land but was not allowed to cross there. Too bad. Thanks; your knowledge is amazing!
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Hi, dahoov2, I seen in your post you had a few Canadian dollars and some cents, could you show some pics of what you have.
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 Posted 11/02/2007  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dahoov2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi SHAFTA9a; I uploaded twice and STILL don't see it. So I'll just tell you they aren't probably anything worth more than face value. Three gold colored Canadian dollars dated 1987 and 1989 which I think we had leftoever from a visit to Winnepeg when we lived in North Dakota in the late 80's (at the time they would have been new and shiny, but like the Sacagewea dollars, they are now tarnished looking or whatever you call it. The penny I saved (came in pocket change as I recall) because it was different than the maple leaf type. It appears to be possibly a centenial penny dated 1867-1967 (has a seagull or something similar on the back). I do have a few maple leaf ones, but honestly they are just because I wanted to keep a couple. They're regular cents; traditionally I just roll the canadian pennies with the US ones when I cash in at the bank for paper $. I do have a scan; if you'd like that, email me since it's not coming on here.
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