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1964-D Cast Counterfeit Cent

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Who? What? When? Where? Why? I am fairly confident on how. Weighs 1.6 grams.


1964-D-Cast-Counterfeit-Cent

1964-D-Cast-Counterfeit-Cent

1964-D-Cast-Counterfeit-Cent

1964-D-Cast-Counterfeit-Cent
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 Posted 03/14/2015  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well. That sure is interesting! Where did you find it?
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About 10 years ago I was doing a coin swap with a fellow in the Netherlands. He mentioned the fake penny, I told him it had to be damage of some sort, as no one in their right mind would waste the time/effort/resources for such a worthless coin. He assured me otherwise and tossed it in as part of the trade.
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The edge isn't cracked, that is the parting line between the two die halves and the "fin" is where the two halves didn't seal properly. The sprue is just off to the side of the fin. Also, the "wrinkle" through CENT is poor fill where the metal cooled before totally filling the die.
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Does it have a hollow ring to it? If it does it could be a Magician's coin.

P.S. I think I deleted my original post by mistake, so I'll just re-post what I said:

I'm pretty sure this is a genuine coin that was subjected to a harsh dip in acid at one point. Acid eats away at the surface of the coin, making it weigh quite a bit less. I think I read somewhere that it cuts down on the circumference as well. So that would explain the big weight difference.

Not sure why the edge is cracked: I'm sure coop will be able to explain that.
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Solid coin. I have worked in the casting industry for nearly 20 years, I see these type of faults everyday. Just wondering why anyone would bother.
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Why would anyone want to counterfeit a 1964D Lincoln Cent?
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It looks just like coins I dig up at a nearby hot springs, you'd be surprised at how much the sulfur eats them away.
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I'm guessing someone was expanding their casting skills into smaller territory, perhaps innocently. Any ideas about composition?
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I agree that it looks like someone was experimenting with bronze casting. The same way people buying 3D printers today are copying all sorts of stuff, when someone first starts casting, it seems likely that they would look around the house for something fun to cast.
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Yep, its a counterfiet. Interesting.
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I have a fake Ike that looks pretty similar. My guess is some kid's shop project. :-)
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My first thought was that it was PVC damage. The crevices in the first pic kind of look like the PVC on another coin I have. The other pics definitely disprove that theory though. I'm going to have to agree with either a counterfeit or an extreme acid bath.
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