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 Posted 11/13/2007  11:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Last week I noticed an obvious counterfeit Seated dollar being offered on ebay without the required disclaimer. I emailed the seller and ebay about the problem. The seller listed an 1848 CC dollar. I advised that Carson City did not begin minting dollars until 1870. The seller thanked me for bringing this to their attention and revised the listing to include that the coin was not genuine. This was done at least three days before the auction closed and the high bid at the time was around $25. Want to see how it ended?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...WA:IT&ih=006
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 Posted 11/13/2007  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok brand new buyer ? but really there is no way of knowing their interests ,, some folks collect fakes and its possible that this person or those others bidding knew something about that particular coin /fake that we don't .

Metalman
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 Posted 11/13/2007  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It must have been the slab that boosted the price!
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 Posted 11/13/2007  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not being familiar with the history of that coin myself,

I would guess the buyer and bidders:

1. Hoped that it was real just not from CC.

&

2. The Seller said "It probably is not genuine but it is Silver" So maybe they were bidding for the "Silver"


$80+ is alot for #2 so I am just grasping....
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 Posted 11/13/2007  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin is a counterfeit. The 'CC' mintmark can be seen on the reverse ... and from the pictures it appears to be a "cast copy". I would bet dollars to donuts that the silver content is '0'. These usually sell anywhere between $7~$12. I picked up a much nicer 1872 for about $7. My point in sharing this is despite my best efforts, some fool shelled out over $80 for a $10 novelty. That is their right and I won't take that away from them. But sometimes you just have to laugh.
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 Posted 11/13/2007  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
I would bet dollars to donuts


Oh man that bet brings back memories ! I have not heard it for a lot of years when we made daily bets on total yardages when I was installing floorcoverings in my late teens and early twenties !

But of course your right about the fake coin ,,but I always hope that the buyer had good reason for paying what they did for something like this ,, its really depressing to think that they did it out of ignorance .

Metalman

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 Posted 11/13/2007  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Metalman ... the reason you don't hear the "dollars to donuts" expression anymore is that the price of a donut is darn near a dollar these days! That phrase was popularized in the movie "State Fair" ... do you remember the song?
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 Posted 11/15/2007  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He should realize that if it's fake then it's not going to be pure silver. He should of ended the auction and not change the description. I'm surprised that ebay didn't take it down. Oh ya, Dave your "a coin man". That just sounded weird.
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 Posted 11/26/2007  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As most of the bids were after the seller posted the extra information you just have to assume the bidders knew something we don't -or are incredibly stupid. Take your choice of opinion.

Jeff
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 Posted 11/26/2007  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had to read it twice because at first I thought he was calling him a con man
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