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New One Pound Coin Design Shown

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Am I the only person with the little voice in their head screaming, "this thing looks way too much like an old pre-decimal threepence!"? Apparently, nobody at the Mint had that little voice. Or at least, no-one seems to have considered the possibility of people passing old threepences as pounds in change.
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To be honest, no, I don't think people will get them mixed up. I think the bimetallic nature of the coin will rule that out. The design is almost completely different, three pence and one pound are in different places, using different flowers and so on.

However considering the modernity with Dent's designs, and then having a design that, yes, could have been designed in the 1930s, is where I might have an issue with this coin. I like the design, it could have been a lot worse.
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, this coin will have a similar size to the current £1 coin. Not sure know where I've got that info.
The only thing I honestly think is missing on this coin is a holographic image, like on the current (?) £2 coin. Wonder if this will be added later. I don't know if I would consider it to be 'the most secure coin in the world' without this particular feature.
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Lateral images are hard to fake but they wear out kind of quickly as well.

I think the microlettering, unconventional shape, alternating reeding, and bimetallic composition will be more than enough to make this one pretty secure.
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What's odd is that the new £2 will not include a hologram unlike the old one.
We're already seeing fake £2's (made of two metals) - so I think they will just move the problem.
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Biggest thing is, it's going to cost the economy £125-£200m to adapt all machines to the new coin (working estimates) plus who knows the cost of re-issuing 15 billion coins (less the net precious metals recovered), for the sake of £2m annually in avoided fake withdrawals ( Royal Mint estimate), less the displacement to faking £2 etc. And less aggro sometimes at coin machines, but more aggro with supermarket trolleys (odd shaped slots or a change to £2 size). What kind of return on investment is this, and think how many libraries, police stations etc could have been saved with the 'overspend'?
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Replacing the £1 coin is long overdue. I've been finding counterfeit versions in my change for several years now. It's just a pity we have to wait until 2017.

I'm ambivalent about the new design. It's a safe option, I suppose.
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Yes it will cost money to change the machines. However the machine business knows this is a potential problem with their business, they take the hit when the hit has to be taken. Maybe it will create jobs and help lead us out of the recession a little bit. Every coin has two sides (excuse the pun).

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Yes, it's the safe option. Nothing special, not bad, will do the job better than many other designs, perhaps there were better designs the mint wouldn't go for because they were a little more modern. Would be nice to see which designs go to the final stages (none of mine by the looks of it).
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It's not quite clear to me from the article if the existing £1 coins are to be withdrawn and/or demonetised.
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Given the main reason for the re-design is the amount of forgeries in circulation I reckon the existing £1 coins will be withdrawn and replaced very quickly.

It will be years before they're demonetised but it won't take long for most of them to disappear from circulation.

I've heard they're minting 1.4 billion copies of the new design which pretty much confirms that they're going to replace the entire supply currently in circulation.
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