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 Posted 03/26/2015  4:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add North of 49 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just came back from a local coin dealer (first time). All their coins were nice and shiney looking so I asked if the coins had been cleaned and they said they used a cleaning solution ( dip 'n glo or something like that, $4.00 a bottle ) and only patted dry.
Is this common with coin dealers? Are there coin cleaning products that don't damage coins?

Most important is this a place a should stay away from?
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 Posted 03/26/2015  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgHoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The owner of my LCS has explained to me that the attitude has changed quite a bit in recent times regarding dipping coins and this includes most TPGs as well. There are many on here who would never even think of doing such a thing and I can understand why. I've done it with a couple of coins and I was not impressed with the look it gave the coin so I will no longer do it. From my limited experience it seems that as long as you don't over do it, dipped once or twice in the life of the coin and rinsed very well with water and only patted dry with a non-abrasive surface, you should be ok if you were to get it graded and not come back "cleaned". I'm sure many people disagree with these statements. I'm still on the fence with it and look forward to people's replies as well.
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 Posted 03/26/2015  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure it happens a whole lot more than you think..

I was at one shop awhile ago and there was a very large bottle (3-4L) with a "unisafe" logo on it.. I couldn't read the label from the distance but I certainly could smell it! And I knew that they were probably dipping coins.

Now the whole topic of dipping coins is a touchy one... dip in an acid solution too much and BAM you get a "burnt" coin... but in some cases dipping can improve eye appeal. (Now what do you think a dealer who has to move product in interested in?)

In short.. save the risk for the dealer.. if you do it.. your coin may lose value.. let it be for the dealer unless the benefits outweight the risks...
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 Posted 03/26/2015  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgHoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as staying away, I would say no. I bet most dealers do it. Any raw coin that is 100+ years old should have some form of tarnish as there are many impurities in the air so if you see a coin on ebay or at your LCS that is perfectly silver in color, to my understanding, it has been cleaned in some form.
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 Posted 03/26/2015  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ag horder, that isnn't always true. There are bags upon bags of Morgan silver dollars that have never been cleaned ever and still have marvoulus color.
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Run away from that dealer!!!
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On another note, many Vicky cents and early colonial tokens are found having decades of grime and crud.
It is nearly impossible to ascertain specific die varieties when the diagnostic markers are buried under
a mound of crud. Some consider even soap and hot water cleaning. Careful and proper cleaning is essential
on such coins. Also, some coins have corrosion. Left unattended, the corrosion will eventually expand and
engulf the entire coin. But heaven forbid if one uses WD 40 to retard the corrosion from getting worse.

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 Posted 03/27/2015  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neo13x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally if a dealer is cleaning coins with anything other than acetone I would stay away from them. To me a circulated coin should show signs of its history from being in circulation but of course an ancient coin being properly cleaned is a different story.
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I think I'll contact other dealers to ask if they do the same sort of thing. Just to see. I don't think I mind a coin being cleaned if its done by someone who knows what they're doing. But I sure wouldn't be happy if it hurts the value.
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