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 Posted 11/15/2007  9:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Sir/Madam, good day! May I ask the denomination and year of this Chinese silver coin?

Image: China--Silver-Coin yunan-2.jpg
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 Posted 11/15/2007  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sakura to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The denomination is "3 mace and 6 candareens", equivalent to "half dollar". Yunnan province, Kuang Hsu period. I'll have to refer to my book to give you more info, but don't have it at the moment.
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 Posted 11/15/2007  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can wait for that, Sir. By the way, I have tried several times to post a Chinese large silver coin with a dragon at the obverse which says "29th Year of Kuang Hsu Pei Yang", but the system will not accept it. Any idea of this, Sir, I will greatly appreciate.
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 Posted 11/15/2007  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are three varieties listed for this coin.
1. Side view of Dragon Y# 253
2. Side view of Dragon with seven flames on pearl Y#259
3. Side view of Dragon with nine flames on pearl Y#259.1

It is .800 silver and should be 13.200 grams, not much difference in price between the three varieties.
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 Posted 11/15/2007  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How I wish I could upload for you, Sir, it's obverse (a dragon) but the system will not work. I thank you for your efforts in trying to help.
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 Posted 11/16/2007  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try reducing the pixel size to your image, it's probably too large to upload.
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 Posted 11/16/2007  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All the pictures that the system have uploaded have been scanned with a dpi of 600. This yunan coin has the same dpi. I cannot understand why it cannot accept it. Anyway,I thank coincommunity for helping me identify the coins which I cannot identify.
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 Posted 11/16/2007  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sakura to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
augbauer, according to my book your Yunnan coin was struck in 1908 at the Kunming mint in Yunnan province. It's 80% silver, and together with the 1 dollar and 20 cents pieces they were among the first silver coins to be minted at the mint. Reference y#253.

As for the "29th Year of Kuang Hsu - Pei Yang" coin, it was struck circa 1903(29th year) in 90% silver. The denomination is 1 dollar and from Chihli province. You could use a site like "imageshack.us" and upload your coin image there, then paste the link here.
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 Posted 11/16/2007  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sakura, Sir, may I know the weight of the 29th Year of Kuang Hsu Pei Yang? As to your suggestion, I will try that, Sir. Thank you.
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 Posted 11/19/2007  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sakura to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Peiyang dragon dollar weighs 26.7g and measures 38mm. If anything that you're unsure about you can always post the images here for second opinions.
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 Posted 11/19/2007  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First thing, if that sticks to a magnet, it's obviously a counterfeit as it's a fake struck in iron / nickel and not in silver. (although I don't have much faith for many of the chinese silver coins)
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 Posted 11/19/2007  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mr. Sakura, thank you for all the help you have extended.
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 Posted 11/19/2007  02:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mr. Gxseries, I tried your method of sticking this coin to a magnet, it didn't stick, Sir.
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 Posted 11/19/2007  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sakura to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome augbauer.

Something extra you might be interested in ...

The Peiyang dragon dollars were struck by the Pei Yang Machine Bureau in Tientsin that was also known as the Pei Yang Arsenal and also referred to as the (Chih)li or Tientsin mint. The bureau was later renamed Pei Yang Mint, and then the General Mint. Some old photos ...

Pei Yang Arsenal, circa 1890s.
China--Silver-Coin

General Mint in Tientsin, circa 1910s.
China--Silver-Coin

The Peiyang dollars passed through either one of the entrances.
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 Posted 11/20/2007  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Sir, for your sincere help and your additional info.
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