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Completed My 3CS Set

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With my 1861 Medallic Alignment back from NGC and finally properly labeled, I've "completed" my XF Circulated 3 Cent Silver collection (the feasible dates, 1851-1862)!!





Well almost.

I need to upgrade my VF30 1851O... but it's hard to find a nice one due to notoriously poor strikes. I have a couple candidates in hand and in mind.

For my 1855 slot, I have had two coins, but one it too low (VF25) and one is too high (AU Details bent) so I'm Goldilocks, looking for just right.

I know,

Pics later when I get time to process them.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats! That sounds like a beautiful set!
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 Posted 03/30/2015  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colin's Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations on the set!
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Congrats! Looking forward to seeing the set!
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 Posted 03/30/2015  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
!! Congratulations!!


Yes, the 3 Cent Silver availability RAPIDLY goes downhill after 1862 (and the price goes WAY up!)
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Very nice! I'm looking forward to seeing pictures as well.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oooohhhh can't wait for pics! Congrats!
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 Posted 03/30/2015  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is something to be happy about. Not an easy set to get.
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 Posted 03/31/2015  05:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brenpickle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I want to do this set one day. I love these little trims.
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Here's the overview...

Completed-My-3CS-Set

The 1851O is a mechanical error

The extra 1862 - from the Newman collection - is a coin I just couldn't resist, even if it's actually VF and a duplicate.

The 1852 split planchet error is a coin I've posted before. I purchased it from Jon Sullivan at ANA in August 2014. An ordinary photograph shows almost nothing, but a deep stacker shot shows a lot:

Completed-My-3CS-Set

-----Burton
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Congrats!!!
Very cool error coin.
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Oh gawwd. That is amazing!
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That is a set of labor. Congrats!
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Just curious, is the mm weak on your '51-O or did NGC just miss it?
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Purely a mechanical error. Somebody keyed 1851 not 1851O and that's how the NGC system labels it.

The fun part is that I bought it from a dealer at the Cowtown (Ft Worth) show. He wanted midway between Greysheet bid and ask for a VF '51, so I took him up on it. Without mentioning it was actually the $30 more expensive 51O and whilst talking to him all about another crazy dealer who had a Franklin mechanical error and wanted moon money for it because it was so 'rare'.


Back to my set. I had set my expectations at 1851 through 1862 because the next tier of the set borders on (is?) impossible... the 1863-1872 business strikes mintages were somewhere between small (3K in 1870, 3,400 in 1871) and very low (21K for 1863, 22K in 1866).


So I settled for an 1867 impaired proof (PF58) PCGS population 4, 2 lower (1 PF40), 294 higher - out of a mintage of 625... I suspect a lot of resubmits. NGC has 154. So the certified population is 454 or 72.6% of the mintage... but it was good-enough as an example of the post 1862s.

Oh, and I have an 1865 3CN labelled as a 3CS (another mechanical error) as a joke.

I mean, really. Low mintage and I wanted them in XF, cleanly graded... go ahead and pull the other one. I never expected to see any of them, let alone own them for my set, but sometimes fate intervenes... I posted previously about finding an 1869 in XF40 at the PNG/Dallas show (https://goccf.com/t/200696#1848729). That same week Heritage auctioned off an 1871.


So the hunt continues - at very low intensity - for those two upgrades, plus the 1863+ business strikes, plus the recognized varieties... which is how come you never actually FINISH a set...

-----Burton
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Congratulations!


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Nice group shot.
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