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2002 Dime Clipped Planchet, Authentic?

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I found this clipped dime in a roll of circulated dimes. I can't see the blakesley effect on it but read that it did not need to be there if it was well struck? So basically,does this look authentic?
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 Posted 11/16/2007  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it almost looks like someone froze it then broke it in half.
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 Posted 11/16/2007  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You got yourself one o'them modren Half Dimes!
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Give me an extreme close up photo of the "G" in God.

You should see some metal flow there. If there is then is is real.

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 Posted 11/16/2007  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it IS real how does it happen?
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I have never seen a straight clip ? seems to me that they would be curved to match the punch for the dime blank .

My guess is that its been cut with a pair of metal shears or scissors ,, cutco used to advertise their sissors by cutting a Lincoln Cent in half .
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It looks like a post mint creation.

This is a genuine "straight clip", actually a coin struck on a planchet made from a blank cut too close to the edge of the coinage strip.


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 Posted 11/17/2007  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
foundinrolls

would the coin you have pictured be considered a clipped planchet since it came from the edge of the strip and was not actually cut by the blanking die ?

To me this would be the text book definition of an incomplete planchet.
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Garage job if it was real then it would not have been in circulation for the last five years.
plus it is too straight. if you could get a side shot you will see the scissor effect or pinching of the shears
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Straight clips can be straight, or slighltly curved outward.

Straight Clips are my favorite clip, I have many examples on many types of US coinage.

The key to this one is that is 5 years old and found in a circulated roll which most likey means post mint damage. To be sure, close-up photos are needed of the G and the edge.

Even thought clips seem like they are easy to fake, they are indeed not. It is very easy to tell the real thing under magnifcartion, simple.


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My guess is hacksaw and then maybe a dremel. If it was cut with a shear type tool it tends to bend the metal as it cuts and this coin is still flat. If you look a the reverse, the cut line wanders which makes me think it was touched up with a dremel after cutting. Also, if you look at the cut on the reverse at 12:00, it appears that you can see where the saw was started and then moved slightly left. Almost two starting points. My thoughts, anyway.
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These are the best I could do
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Hard to tell from the photos, but most likely a fake considering where it came from.

I'll post metal flow photos when I have time.

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Ok, I'm gonna try to address each thing that came up in one response:-)

Technically all "clips" are coins struck on incomplete planchets. A "straight clip" is still cut from the metal strip but instead of the overlapping cuts that cause a "curved clip" the cut is too close to the edge of the strip.

The terms Clipped Planchet, Curved Clip, or Straight Clip are terms that hang on from the past as ways to describe coins struck on incomplete planchets.

On another note, the 1982 P dime I pictured was Found In a Roll of dimes long after it was minted, so time doesn't enter into it. Real coins like this can be found long after they are minted. Not everyone knows it's an error. A lot of people just think it's a damage and roll the coin up anyway.

In this case though the coin that starts this thread is not genuine. You can see how the details are solid right to the edge. On a genuine pieces as noted in another answer, the metal flows off the edge and details dont end as abruptly as they do on your coin.

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Bill

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