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Counterfeit Coins Cause For Concern Among Canadian Collectors

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Libertad, I have to agree with everything you have said.From the alloys polishing and thousands of prying eyes .Some people will get fooled . Having a site like CCF helps collectors keep abreast of the ways that some will try to separate us from our hard earned money.
I am fairly new to collecting and I learn something new here everyday .
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I think like everything else technology will eventually be the answer to this dilemma. Carbon dating , computers , digital imaging were all once ideas. Metallurgy will prob. be the answer . possibly done with grading .In the meantime? Reporting any and all counterfeits should be mandatory and laws in place to protect victims.
Pipe dream ? Again ,all depends on the coin and numismatic's community to stay on top of the situation. maybe will be the suffragettes of the new millennium.

THAT would be interesting
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Speaking of counterfeit coinage. This looks like an example from the 2015 Charlton Standard Catalogue Canadian Coins?


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/CANADA-1881-...em487fc19570


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Metallurgy will prob. be the answer . possibly done with grading


I am pretty sure PCGS has their own XRF...
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the_sifu, you are correct, that is a counterfeit 1881H.
On genuine coins the broken stems reverse was not used after 1880.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Thanks for the confirmation DBM. Page 301, 2015 Charlton Standard Catalogue Canadian Coins. I'm not as good as Nickel's Guy,

IMHO on the Counterfeit markers,

1. the broken stems reverse as DBM noted.
2. The almost closed C.
3. Both 1's on the date look elongated at the base of the 1.
4. The top of the 8's look enlarged and looses degrees of oval symmetry.
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The 1881h counterfeit sold for $90CDN. Shameful.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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