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Test Of Acetone On 45 Year Old Cello Tape

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 Posted 11/19/2007  02:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This was brought on by me finding a 1909 cent that had cello tape that held in a blue Whitman folder. since I had several cents from the same batch, I ran a test this evening.
The cent in question was soaked for 45 min then photo was taken


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The photos do not show that where the tape was you can see little flakes of red (copper). not very apparent to the naked eye (except for the line where the top edge of the cello tape was.
Under a 10x loupe, the red is very apparent.


after a little "thumbing" Red still shows but looks uniform.



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 Posted 11/19/2007  03:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so it looks like the acetone got the tape off pretty good
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 Posted 11/19/2007  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Acetone has a lot of merits. Just don't ask it to do more than it can. It won't move green meenies. sure wish I could figure that one out.
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 Posted 11/19/2007  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks a lot better.
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 Posted 11/19/2007  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! :D
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 Posted 11/20/2007  03:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The greenie thing look like copper-oxide (oxidation forming when copper react with oxygen and other substances (some form of acid)), try to wash with soap (base substance, as oppose to acid) and try to "toothpicking" it while you are washing.... I never tried on copper, so take my advise at your own risk...... hehehe
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 Posted 11/20/2007  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice clean up
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If you get really bored, try this on one of your junk cents!

Get a 'stipple' brush at Home Depot. It's in the faux paint area. I believe it's from Tommy Hilfiger or one of those designer guys. It's a roundish brush with natural bristles. It's relatively expensive ($12-$15?).

Next to it, grab some Xylene in the large can. (They don't make small cans of Xylene).

With rubber gloves on, put the coin in hand and apply the Xylene liberally with the brush. Point the brush straight down and make circles with it for about 2 minutes. The idea is to not move the bristles across the face of the coin, but rather the motion should just make tiny circles where the coin makes contact. Don't press too hard! And always keep the coin wet.

Once the two minutes is up, blow on the coin until dry. It evaporates quickly.

One final rinse in Acetone should be used to finalize the process.

I use this process when doing RPMs and it works wonders on getting the dirt out of the little crevaces.
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 Posted 11/20/2007  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vaslin, thanks for the idea, I will give it a try.
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Vaslin ,,I would like to see some high resolution pictures of a couple of the coins which have had this process done to them ?

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Excellent idea. Forgot that I had some flat bed scans of some coins I did.

Before and after a Xylene brushing...

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 Posted 11/20/2007  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears you found a way to remove Copper Oxide. However, remember it should not be attempted on valuable coins unless you know it will not be noticed as cleaned.
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I agree Carl. I'm not sure if it's detectable. But so far I can't see a detrimental effect of it.

I mainly use this method on lincoln RPM coins where gunk has hidden the mintmarks.
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 Posted 11/21/2007  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to say I'm surprised to not see hairline scratches on the coin ,, Interesting .

Thanks for sharing the pics.

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 Posted 11/21/2007  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure thing. Just relooked at the brush now that I'm home. It was a Ralph Lauren round stippling brush.
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