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I have a stack of 1954 pennies that have a die defect along the obverse and reverse faces, between the letters, "e pluribus unum" and "in god we trust." Somewhere I heard this was called "stoning." They look like little bumps/pebbles/pimples. Is this called stoning? I cant find that word in any coin terminology book. Are they worth collecting?
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I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the term "stoning." Could you possibly provide some pictures of the condition you are describing?
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Clarification...these dimples (that actually look like the texture of orange peel) in between the letters atop obverse and reverse faces caused the die to mis-strike and on three of the pennies the "I" (in Liberty) is smeared over to the rim of the coin and on another six of the coins of these pennies, the "L" in Liberty is printed as close to the rim as it could be without actually missing the penny.

This is the message I get when I try to upload a picture of them.

Request object error 'ASP 0104 : 80004005'
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Orange peel is a sign of a worn out die. Other coins can have planchet bubbles.

Show us a photo.

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1954 Cents were made from dies that really went the limit for the dies. I got a BU roll once and it looked like glorified slugs. The 1968 Cents are the worst for letters closest to the rim. See one from that year you can tell the date without looking at the date. Other years that had very worn dies (VLDS) was the mid/late 40's.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...IED_SLUG.jpg
What shows die wear is this: The fields start to flow into the devices. Letters become weak, details are lost. The reverses on the wheat Cents show very poor detail even though the coin is BU. The L on LIBERTY is one of the best gauges for die state. It location on the outside edge of the die shows loss of detail in LDS and VLDS.
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quote:
This is the message I get when I try to upload a picture of them.

Request object error 'ASP 0104 : 80004005'


Make sure your images are in .jpg format.
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I've never heard of such a thing. As Coop points out, very late die state coins will have deep flow lines. That's probably what you're seeing.
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my files are jpegs. they wont load
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You could also make a photobuckt.com account. Load them there and then put the link they provide in the image tags.
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my files are jpegs. they wont load


It may be the file size. Save the pictures to your desktop temporarily on your PC. The limit here is 100k until you get a gallery. I have found that on my laptop, I actually have to resize down to about 80k when checking the properties, and when it loads it goes up to 95 or 96. You will either have to resize, or save it with lesser picture quality to get it down enough. Sometimes it's better to sacrifice picture quality and keep the image a little larger. Just make sure you crop everything but the coin out of the picture.
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