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1892 Indian And A 1906 Indian For Opinions Please...

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 Posted 04/07/2015  4:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rynegold to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Are these/ have these been cleaned? I ask as these are coins I've aquirred over these several years in the bullion business and, they came to me like this. I'm wondering "if" they're good enough to send for grading or if I should just leave them be.

The 06:

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The 92:



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Commments appreciated...

Regards, m
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The 1892 looks fine to me, but the 1906 is altered 100%.
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I don't know about cleaned, but the color on the 1906 is unusual. I also like the 1892. It would be fun to see what PCGS says about them
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1892 is a great MS example.
1906 has questionable toning.
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I like the 1892, MS. The 1906 looks a little unnatural to me, I would run from it unless it was in a lot for a buck or so.
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Questionable or not I love the color on it with the contrast of a copper back ground. I'd love to own one like that. If it were me I'd pay the $20 just to make the graders scratch their heads... either way if u send it in or end up selling it let us know... Nice one, even if altered Imo
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If it were me I'd pay the $20 just to make the graders scratch their heads.


They're only going to be scratching their heads because of the dummy who sent them an obviously AT coin.
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SsuperDdave... pardon my asking but I'm rather new to some of the nomenclature around here; what is an "AT" coin?

tia, mitch
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An AT coin is one who has had chemicals added to the surface to unnaturally color (tone) a coin. They are considered damaged and are worth less. Copper does not naturally tone to the slew of rainbow colors on the 1906. The 1892 is a perfect example of what a "natural" copper Indian cent should look like.

On a side note, has anyone noticed the lump under the ear on the 1892? What Snow #, if any, is it?
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Rynegold - AT = Artificial Toning
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ya I know dave but she's just so darn colorful and u know I like me sone color. I was being somewhat facetious but I'd still like to have one like that just to look at. Don't know why, maybe it's the "monster" colors against the copper background

... rynegold: AT is "Artificial Toning" meaning it was done deliberately, with the express purpose of experimentation or out right fraud to deceive... as opposed to NT or "natural toning"
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Ok I see now... Well thanks for all the comments! I'll send in my li'l 92 and see what she gets! I may post the other one on ebay; surely someone will give it a home!

thanks! m
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I'll be interested to see if the 1892 grades with no details. Has some pretty good scratches and rubs.
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 Posted 04/08/2015  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connicoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A coin is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it...and I think the AT is beautiful on this coin ! Natural rainbows are best, but this one is a beautiful and I would probably spend "a pretty penny" on it, just saying !
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You actually want to pay extra for a coin whose numismatic value has been deliberately destroyed? You want to support the enemies of our hobby?

We're here to preserve these coins.

But if you wish, here you go:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/gre.seve/m....047675.l2562

http://www.ebay.com/sch/cwbyup1051/...047675.l2562

Have at it. Those coins are of no value to us.
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Ahhhh... the horror SD, the horror! But seriously, looking at that stuff and the idiotic titles and descriptions makes me queezy... especially after you start learning true color spectrum progressions it all just screams crap!
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