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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Final coin I needed for my classic Whitman Canada type set albums! What do you think? Also, what is fmv?   Hint: it's not in a details slab.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Not in a details slab? Id definitely put it in one. If so, I think NGC said VG-08.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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G6 $100
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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G-6 No details after all it's a G-6 coin.  Back...DBM...Nice to see your posting again. 
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Yeah.. It looks like a G-6 to me too, cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Not a details coin because at these low grades, NGC and PCGS allows for this.
If it was an au58 coin, it would certainly get a details grade.
Anyways, for NGC, I would guess they graded it (or should I say 'overgraded it') a VG and I prey and hope they didn't grade it a 'Fine'.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would be surprised if this coin is without details. I'll go with "G" details (improperly cleaned).
Edited by TheCoinHunter 04/12/2015 2:40 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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TheCH....you will be surprised.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1461 Posts |
Possibly in this case. Guessing is part of the fun! However to say it's the "norm" for either PCGS or NGC to not provide details on G or VG graded coins is incorrect. There are many coins in those ranges that have been detailed for improper cleaning. The marks on this coin are consistent with cleaning (consistent pattern in a single direction) which is different from wear marks which wouldn't likely exhibit that type of consistency.
Edited by TheCoinHunter 04/12/2015 7:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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TheCoinH....I only said 'you will be surprised' because the OP said so in the opening post, not because I knew it wouldn't grade 'details'.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The "hint" is that it graded G-6 or lower. If it would have graded VG-8 or better it definitely would have "cleaned" detail noted. Most grading companies will not include details on coins graded below VG as they basically are a detail coin. I have seen exceptions but only on very rare coins. Example would be a 1921-5 Cents in G-6 may include a detail. This is because the coin is valuable regardless and the detail may affect it's value.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I just saw that at the bottom of the post. My apologies and I am surprised. Subscribing to the theory that some key coins should have details attached to G based only on their rarity makes the process of grading inconsistent. How do you determine what years should be detailed? I wonder if somehow NGC choses to determine a difference between "cleaned" as opposed to "improperly cleaned" at those grades. Once the graded is posted, I will send a note to NGC asking that question. Here is an example of a G detailed coin http://coins.ha.com/itm/shield-nick...0092-22554.s and here are many others. Even some coins graded "poor" get the details slab.
Edited by TheCoinHunter 04/13/2015 09:45 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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G6 for me as well.
It's interesting that PCGS/NGC will not put details when its in this low a grade
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Canada
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