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 Posted 05/31/2015  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not to get off topic, but this is why I love ebay.

Many items I have won on ebay by first placing my maximum bid, only to win it at a very much reduced price.

I doubt highly this happens at auctions.

In fact, about 15 years ago, I placed 5 bids (pre-auction bids at a very large Canadian coin auction) and won them all and ALL 5 winning lots cost me my maximum bids.

It was only later I read the fine print of this auctioneer that stated 'he could sell the lot to the high bidder at the maximum bid even if there were no other bids!!"

Thanks but no thanks.......I'm staying with ebay.
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 Posted 05/31/2015  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO if you are a victim of shill bidding it is your own fault. Set your max bid and
stick to it. There was an auctioneer of Canadian material some years ago that used to
run a lot of his own material through his auctions. Nothing wrong with that at all.
What I did find amusing was that when you were bidding against the book he would give
the impression that he had mail bids you were competing against. In reality he was just
trying to drive the price up to his reserve on his material. Nothing to get upset about
but the auctions would drag on.
It was quite clever as to the casual observer and potential consignor it would appear
that he had a strong participation from mail bidders and a high sell through rate. A
lot of his material would not sell and then reappear in later auctions and the process
would be repeated.
Again set your max bid and stick to it.This is easy advise for me to dispense. I wish
I would have followed it in my early years of collecting.

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 Posted 05/31/2015  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everest....you just summed up what I believe the 'auction game' is.
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 Posted 06/01/2015  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to clarify re: the CA shill bidder..... he had apparently (and accidentally) won several of his own lots and then tried to claim to the auctioneer that he didn't bid on those items at all, then later admitted that he was bidding them up to his reserve price; which didn't even make any sense. Then he simply shrugged after the auctioneer explained to him that what he did was a "no-no", and very casually replied "oh well, there's always a solution to these things". The shill bidder was completely aloof.
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Thanks for the clarification on that skip79.. In most auctions, a bid is entering a legal obligation to buy the item. No doubt that Colonial Acres will probably let that consignor/bidder off with a warning, but the devil in me thinks that it would be a good harsh lesson to hold that bidder accountable to all his purchases, including his own consigned items, with hammer fees and taxes...


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you just summed up what I believe the 'auction game' is.


Don't kid yourself here - the auction game (as SsuperDdave mentioned) is one that is played on both sides of the table. People will do strange things, for the sake of money...

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