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Here are some images of a 1946 Doubled Die Obverse dollar that I shot at The ANA Summer Convention in 2013. I first listed this variety for Steve Olter of Michigan in 1995. It wasn't until 2013 that I saw a second specimen from that die -- though that might not mean much. The coin shown here was submitted by Pat Mullen of Michigan. Notice the nice doubling of the eyelid, ear, nose and upper lip. It also displays quadrupled designer's initials. The white arrow points to a die chip diagnostic to this variety in this die stage (it may be there for all stages). Ken Potter    |
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As always Ken, excellent photos!!  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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finally, I now know it is a known variety. does your example have a DDR? if not I have a new die combo for you. Feel free to call me Will.
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thank you very much.
may I use your photos?
for my own use ?
thanks in advance
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it you mind could you post pics of the lower lip? if I remember correctly I saw some fair doubling in that area.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Torgemco, I have no problem with you using them for your "own use" however, I do plan on using these in an article so please hold off on using them publicly for about a month or two unless for reasonable use like an ebay auction with the same variety, etc. Thanks for asking! Ken |
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great find Mr. Potter, congratulations.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Dollarman,
When I shot these images I was working against the clock in an attempt to get the coin back to the owner before he left the convention. Not all my shots were usable and the ones of the lower lip and chin area were far too dark. I looked through my old black & white shots from 1995 and those are too dark in that area too but the file card describes it has having strong doubling on the lower lip as you state. Also, it doesn't show well in the my images but there is strong doubling of the hairlines above the ear. There is also minor tripling (maybe quadrupling) of the lower serifs of IMP. Also, if memory serves me correct, there is some doubling on the lower serifs of EX of REX; possibly more doubling in areas I missed due to the time restraints. Now with that said, the owner left the convention before I could catch him and I just got him his coin back last year. I wish I would have realized I needed some additional shots and a closer inspection. I just processed these images yesterday.
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Dollarman, I don't remember seeing a DDR. I usually look but when in a rush (as at a convention were we [CONECA] has a bunch of folks in line with questions) I can miss the more minor ones. Is it major or minor on your coin. Ken |
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thank you for your generosity
koinpro
may I ask if this example
is graded ?
once again for my own use
and knowledge
cheers
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Dollarman, the fellow that found the one shown here is Pat Mullen of Michigan. I'm just the messenger/photographer (as usual). After over 20 years of shooting other folks stuff I'm just now making the time to shoot some of my own. I posted a one here today for a minor clash that was fun finding.
Ken
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was the coin in an ms 63 slab?, if you like I can send you my coin. the doubling on the reverse is strong enough that the trees body is completely doubled to the right to the extent that there are 2 of the same image.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Dollarman,
Both of the coins I shot were raw. You can send yours but do you really want to risk it in the mail? I can't insure it on the return into Canada. I once had to turn down a PayPal payment for $2000 for a 1965 Large Beads 5c that I obtained from the discovery hoard because I couldn't insure it. But I'll leave that up to you. I know the mail is safe 99% of the time. I just wasn't willing to risk losing a $2000 coin of which I only had three to start with.
Ken
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Here is an image of the Ear showing the doubling of the hairlines above. This is from the Steve Olter specimen that I shot in 1995. Ken  |
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Ken did this coin have raised die polish lines that are quite distinctive . 3 above the nose in parallel and some hatched criss cross lines below the chin towards the neck area. Your post peaked my interest and I decided to look through my stock of 1946 dollars . Found a similar coin to your pictured one. Doubled lips nose and early stage doubling of the ear. The HP is only single though. Thanks Jack
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04/19/2015 12:03 am
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Pacificoin,
I don't remember one way or the other about the die polish/abrasion lines. However, it your coin has no quadrupling on the HP (or just doubling) is has to be from a different die.
Can you show us a pic of your coin? Sounds interesting.
Ken
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