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Off hand I don't know, but it's kinda hard to see. Is it possible to get a little clear pictures, and pics of the whole coin?
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As far as I know, collars are not complete circles but segmented pieces. The collar this was struck in was not flush between each piece, and a bit of the coin squeezed out into that space. It's the only way I could see something like this happening without postmint damage.
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I wish I could take better photos of this, but these were the best out of about 100 shots that were taken!lol My phone just couldn't focus well when getting that close. So this is possibly something that occurred during it's mint? The IHC is an 1866. |
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So this is possibly something that occurred during it's mint?
It's my working theory for the moment. Looks like the rim to the left of the point is "larger" than that on the right, while still being smoothly rounded as you'd expect the collar to impart. That smooth difference reinforces my thought that two (thirds? quarters) of the collar were slightly off relative to each other. |
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So the roundness of the rim is a tell-tell sign that there were collar issues? I spent some time taking some more photos. Not sure if these will help or are any better than the previous ones. But here they are:   |
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So the roundness of the rim is a tell-tell sign that there were collar issues?
Don't take this wrong, but it's only a tell-tale sign that I have an opinion on the matter. I've never seen it before, but the easiest explanation I can come up with (Occam's Razor) is what I stated. That means zero about whether or not I'm right. |
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Definitely, we're on the same page. I understand that this is just your opinion... but thus far, it's the only opinion that I have.
Thanks for your time and help on this. It is much appreciated.
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As far as I know, collars are not complete circles but segmented pieces. No, the collars are one piece. The only time they used segmented collars is when they have lettered edges that are created at the same time as the strike. The pictures are clear enough to tell but it could be a cracked collar. If the collar cracks the metal squeezes into the crack just like it does on die cracks. |
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I'm bumping this because I needed to find out why Conder was right this time (as usual) and I was wrong this time (as usual, when Conder disagrees with me  ). Here's a collar from a Presidential dollar:  And a one-piece collar for reeded coinage:  |
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