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Guys I'm seriously addicted to the info here.. I haven't gotten off here since I found this place I'm learning an incredible amount of things about coins that makes me feel pretty dumb for not knowing previously. I gotta find someone on here to talk to so I can understand even more. I have learned that the way I viewed coins may not be the best way as chunks of silver with one neat coin here and there. Coins value and demand can be much much more than just weight and age like die cracks, or misprints. I honestly have gotten rid of coins with things as scrap silver rather than a coin someone would want to collect.
I've realized that I may have gotten rid of coins for people to melt that could have been something more like a collectable. So I'm going to learn more and collect coins rather than just invest to preserve them In a way or protect them from other people like I was who would have melted them just because they were silver.
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lol at the counterfeiter. Carson City (or any city in Nevada) didn't even exist yet in 1846. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carson_City_Mint It probably should be stamped with "copy" somewhere so nobody tries to pass it off as real in the future.
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Welcome to the jungle R1W3D!... Stick with ccf and your coin knowledge will grow exponentially in very short order!
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Steve Caruso of the Black Cabinet (he's a member here) should probably see this one. I don't think there's an example of this counterfeit in his database yet. It's either one of the Chinese fakes from the Bad Place - I couldn't find the date there - or maybe a contemporary fake designed to circulate in the Orient and fool only non-Americans.
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no magnet sticks to it yes it is truly silver

You said in another post that you checked it for being silver. How did you check it? A magnet won't stick to a lot of silver colored alloys. It you used a touchstone test, those can be fooled by plating. Weight would probably tell you something. From the appearace this looks to me like one of the chinese fakes that started appearing about 10 years ago when they started getting away from the magnetic alloys they were using. Most of those will be noticeably underweight.
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Rubstones two one super fine one a little more rough. I know my plating, filled, rolled, and dipped, this is solid. I'm new to coin collecting not the metal trade I've been dealing with precious metals for a while.
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So shoot it with the XRF and do an ultrasound, also weigh it to the accuracy of 0.001g and do a specific gravity test and let us know.
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Hey I'm not sure if I'm the only one but silver makes a distinct sound higher than an alloy or steel so I flip coins when I first get them and if they sound basically they are. Idk how many people listen for the sound of silver but I've gotten 5 quarters and three dimes just because they were dropped with other change and I heard them :) please tell me other people have found silver this way so I don't feel like a weirdo haha I know there has to be someone else that has found coins the same way.
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I actually no longer have xrf capabilities as the one I used was a great friend of mines. He's a jeweler and had a couple of them one of which I had most of the time until I moved to California a few months ago.
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please tell me other people have found silver this way so I don't feel like a weirdo haha I know there has to be someone else that has found coins the same way.


Yes, if you have the ear you can do this. It needs to be a well-developed ear in some cases because many things can affect the quality of the ring from one similar coin to another.
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Well I'm still young and can hear some higher tones still. I will give the credit to my grandpa he thought me that trick when I was 12 when he gave me my first Morgan.
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Maybe someone could point this out to Steve as I'm a new guy and wouldn't want to bother him.
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The guy she bought it from was impaired young says his grandpa died and he didn't want the coins and didn't know anything about them so he was selling them.


Considering this is a clear, obvious replica... I'm not calling you a liar or anything, but the guy who was impaired most likely wasn't impaired.

Most likely a sick scum scammer selling chinese fakes.


Silver or not, it's still a replica.
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He had down syndrome just didn't want to be rude and say that straight out and he didn't dupe me he duped myfriend. I would have been skeptical because the price was so low and the details are so faint..
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