Black Cabinet?... Are These Colonial Counterfeits?

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Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 11:11 am Ok, for a split second I had a mild cardiovascular event. Let's call it a mermer. Then I looked closer. Haven't had these pass through my hands before but they look off to me... your thoughts and have these been seen in the cabinet? Edited by Cascade 04/22/2015 3:42 pm Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 11:59 am Judging them is beyond my skillset. Strongly advising you to never look at one of these with an optimistic mindset isn't. Just like Trade dollars, start with NO and be proven wrong. It's a ton easier on your heart. Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 3:59 pm Both have seams down the edges and symptoms of casting, so I'mafraid both are counterfeit. Report this Post to the Staff
AgCoinAu Pillar of the Community Canada 3049 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 5:03 pm Can someone please explain what a seam on the edge looks like? Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1657 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 7:07 pm Fake for sure I am afraid. Cast copies of colonial coins have been popular for many years so there are a lot of the earlier ones made before they had to be marked as copies. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 7:25 pm The Massachusetts cent matches the classic Peter Rosa replica still available from coinreplicas.com, though a cruder rendering: https://www.coinreplicas.com/massac...-cent-1788-5 Report this Post to the Staff
edweather Pillar of the Community United States 7375 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 7:29 pm I can see the seams on the cent on the scale from here Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHuntingDrew Pillar of the Community United States 4932 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 9:46 pm The mass. 1788 cent is a highly counterfeited coin. I personally own one myself. Report this Post to the Staff
Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 9:50 pm Ya, I just wanted to confirm my suspensions. Thanks guys Report this Post to the Staff
ArrowsAndRays Pillar of the Community United States 1656 Posts	Posted 04/22/2015 10:38 pm Colonial souvenir coin sets are sold all over. I've seen them in D.C., Gettysburg, Boston and Salem, Disney World, and Williamsburg. These look familiar. edit to add a link the google just provided: http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/FAQ...nushead.html Edited by ArrowsAndRays 04/22/2015 10:41 pm Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 04/23/2015 01:14 am Both replicas. Many of both of these can be found on ebay as the real deal. I have reported hundreds. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
ExoGuy Pillar of the Community United States 4416 Posts	Posted 04/23/2015 08:52 am Quote: Many of both of these can be found on ebay as the real deal. I have reported hundreds. Kudos, VT .... Reported dozens, myself. Most of these, if not all, date back to the 1960's. They were sometimes sold in sets or groupings of different sizes. I have a few that are still in their original, plastic holders. The word COPY was typically absent back then. Ironically, the casting gives these copies a more aged appearance. Edited by ExoGuy 04/23/2015 08:57 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188342 Posts	Posted 04/23/2015 09:54 am Quote: Just like Trade dollars, start with NO and be proven wrong. It's a ton easier on your heart. Good advice. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
colonialjohn Pillar of the Community United States 1757 Posts	Posted 04/23/2015 3:36 pm HMMM ... the WM New Hampshire is of course a $15 coin ... they seem to bring that now ... saw one recently in a Stacks/Bowers sale ... seriously. That Mass. electrotype ... I am thinking $75-up. Try it on E-Bay. Call it a 19thC electrotype ... quite scarce ... IMO. JPL Report this Post to the Staff
Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 04/23/2015 5:12 pm Say what these things have that much value? And I can sell them on ebay sans repercussion So the mass is like a contemporary counterfit? And why would stacks be selling the wm? Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 04/23/2015 6:07 pm Quote: And I can sell them on ebay sans repercussion Maybe. Technically against the rules but we have to hold them at gunpoint to enforce their rules as it is. John (if he speaks on these, you listen) was being derisive of Stacks, I think. But if the Mass is an early electrotype, it actually has a dedicated collector base. Report this Post to the Staff
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