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ID Help Needed With Roman ( Provincial Coin ? ) Please

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 Posted 04/23/2015  06:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all
Ive been a little busy lately so havnt posted for a while.
I still have a good pile of unattributed coins of various periods which need dealing with, this coin has stumped me so far.
No legends to work with, damaged portrait, the reverse has a lion with either a club or torch above.
Weight - 2.70g
Size - 13mm


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ID-Help-Needed-With-Roman--Provincial-Coin-?--Please

ID-Help-Needed-With-Roman--Provincial-Coin-?--Please
A nudge in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Tia
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 Posted 04/23/2015  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a greek coin...
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 Posted 04/23/2015  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suggest Syracuse , under Agathokles (317-289 BC).
obv : head of Heracles right with at right the inscription SYRAKOSIWN
Rev : lion walking right,club above .albert
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 Posted 04/23/2015  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah, it does really look like that. but most of the ones of the type I found online seem to be larger, like 22 mm? so not sure.
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 Posted 04/23/2015  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Albert
The description is basically correct but when I look at the coin and its variants next to mine there is nothing that made me think it was a match.
The bust is totally different and the club makes mine look like either a snake or torch
Further searching turned up a coin of
Ptolemy of Mauretania, 24 - 40 ad
It has the lion walking right but with a star above, that's the closest match I have found so far.
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 Posted 04/23/2015  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the coin of Ptolemy has 2 problems :
1: the size :AE 23
2: the lion is leaping,not walking.
I look further and hope to find the wright denomination . albert
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 Posted 04/23/2015  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry , I find no other matches.I still think it is a coin of Agathokles , size and weight are existing for this coin , the big problem is the different bust ,but I don t find no more than a few coins to compare .albert
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 Posted 11/17/2015  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It only took 7 months but I finally found it
Hadrian
Caesarea Maritima
OBV - Bust right - IM?TRA HADRIANO CA(E)
REV - Lion walking right, snake above. CIFAC below -
COLONIA PRIMA FLAVIA AVGVSTA CAESAREA
All of the issues I have found have a " squiggly " snake where as mine looks more like a single head Cadeuceus.
Information is sparse at best so more investigation is needed.
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 Posted 11/17/2015  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
congratulations , I am sure it was not easy to find .A similar coin has been offered on sixbid,Auctiones GmbH , eAuction 19 of 20 october 2013 , lot 49.They give as reference : Ros28,Sofaer pl24,38 .I do not know these books , but thse coins are mostly unknow to me .The coin is rare and in not in Seaky 's Greek Imperial coins . Albert
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