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1881 Morgan Silver Dollar Legit Or Fake

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 Posted 05/03/2015  07:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add stolennn1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone, I've had what it appears to be this 1881 Morgan silver dollar:
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As you can see it has that little pice attached, and with it, it had a necklace (which was not silver). I've already checked that the coin and the added pice is made out of silver, so I was wondering wether it was authentic or not.
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 Posted 05/03/2015  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
stolennn1. The coin is absolutely a genuine 1881-s Morgan silver dollar. That year and mint is THE most common and plentiful of ALL Morgan dollars. First the bad news- it has been turned into.a necklace pendant which kills numismatic value... Now the good news- it has been made into a necklace pendant! which usually sells for a premium over its silver content... plus it looks like the bezel is sterling silver adding value. My estimate of value for you is $40-$50 usd... If you were to cut the coin out it would only be worth $20. See what I mean.
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 Posted 05/03/2015  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Coin Community, stolennn1. I have to disagree with Cascade in the enthusiasm of my reply, because I feel strongly that images of this size are too small for a firm opinion in any case.

That said, my leaning is to consider this a real Morgan. The context of the bezel actually helps in this case, because if we assume it to be contemporary one would expect a genuine piece to be used. The details (at this size of image) are consistent with a real Morgan. Nothing jumps out at me....

....except - and this should have slapped you in the face, Cascade, and it will be your personal takeaway here - the decided slant to the date. See how the far end is higher than the near end? This is not unknown for Morgan dollars but it's on the far end of magnitude, and causes me immediate worry. There is only one single 1881-S variety known (so far) with a Slanted Date.

All the same, I believe this coin is probably one of that variety. It does not add any value.

You're better at Morgans than this, Cascade. Got you.
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 Posted 05/03/2015  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doh! I wasnt even thinking about VAM authentication. And I must admit, I haven't even broched the 81s's yet so take away received SD. Good to know there's only 1 slant date.

Although I stand by my valuation. I have sold 81s pendant morgans in the past and even the cheap screw on kind seem to go for around $40. Non screw on bezels a touch more and sterling even more. It has amazed me
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 Posted 05/03/2015  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I agree with your valuation evaluation (whoa) so I didn't mention it. The fact that there's only one Slanted Date (VAM-22) doesn't mean there won't eventually be more.
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 Posted 05/03/2015  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's mine for you to compare to stolenn1...

And to the amazing psycic Ssuperdave

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 Posted 05/03/2015  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stolennn1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much for the help guys. It's really nice to know I've had a valuable thing, not so much for the money but for the history behind it. Knowing it's real, I can't stop but wonder who had this before me, where has it been and so on :) I'm going to buy a nice silver necklace that can go perfectly with it and it shall remain as family legacy :D
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 Posted 05/03/2015  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is the perfect attitude, and proves that you understand what we love most about our hobby - knowing we are merely caretakers of history. I quite agree with your plan for this piece. Having been placed in jewelry, that becomes its' highest calling.
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