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1883 Morgan CC (?) In Acrylic

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I have been trying to figure out what I should do with this one.Should I keep her as is...or try and free her?And would it be even possible without hurting the coin?


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I would think it'd be possible to free the coin without damaging it. I think that leaving it in the original diplay case may add some value, you'll have to do some research to see if it is collectible as it is. Otherwise, the only reason I can think of removing it is for a set or if you wish to have it slabbed.
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I think it's very cool. Dated during the gsa releases it indirectly related to that period of amazement and joy that items like this were being made as gifts. In my opinion I'm very glad it is in Lucite and not some flimsy case or it would have been cracked long ago.
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Keep it as is -- most definitely. This is neat!
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I can't tell from your images if the case is made of several layers/sheets of acrylic plastic that are screwed together or if the coin is embedded in a solid block of acrylic.

If the case is screwed together, it would be simple to remove the coin. If it's a solid block, I'm not sure I would risk trying to remove it for fear of damaging the coin. (Although one could argue that a coin embedded in a block of acrylic already has surface damage.)

As it is, it's an interesting piece that might appeal to collectors of Colorado coinage and/or exonumia.

I would leave it as is.


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If you're looking to sell / trade it pm me. I might be interested. I once had a lucite toilet seat with morgans, barbers, peace etc all stuck in it. I highly doubt the coin can be safely removed. The lucite was hot liquid when it was formed around it
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I guess I'll take all of your advise and leave it as is.

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commems:I can't tell from your images if the case is made of several layers/sheets of acrylic plastic that are screwed together or if the coin is embedded in a solid block of acrylic.

If the case is screwed together, it would be simple to remove the coin. If it's a solid block, I'm not sure I would risk trying to remove it for fear of damaging the coin. (Although one could argue that a coin embedded in a block of acrylic already has surface damage.)

I wish it was just screwed together.I would have already had it apart and taken a look at the reverse.Instead,it is one big block of plastic(unless/until My curiosity gets the best of Me). But like I said I'll leave it alone.


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When I was a teenager,back in the mid 70's,I picked these up at the local tourist trap.They are My granddaughters now and I think they are in lucite.

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Cascade,for now I'm going to put it back up on the fireplace mantel.But,if I do decide to part with her,You'll be the first on the list.
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Instead,it is one big block of plastic

That was my guess, but I don't like to make assumptions when I am answering questions.

Hopefully, your curiosity won't get the best of you!


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Might want to ask the VAM experts about the odd thing at 10:30 on the rim
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When I look at it with a loop, it looks like another coin rim has banged up against it.
It does have a clash mark at the neck but without looking at the reverse I think it would be hard to figure out which VAM it might be.
Which is why I wanted to see the other side in the first place. But, I guess it will remain a mystery...for now.
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I think Acetone will dissolve acrylic
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A good machinist can cut this thing down to size and acetone and time can do the rest.

I'd just about bet the coin is an 83-O. There were "jillions" of 83-O Morgans in the Treasury releases of the early 1960's. Some super dooper VAM expert should be able to figure it out if you can get high quality photos of the obverse.

Back when this thing was put together 50 years ago EVERYBODY was aware of the scarcity and collectibility of "CC" dollars.

It's most likely not an 83-S as most of the BU ones we see today came out of the Redfield hoard of the 1970's.

I'd just keep it "as is" if it were mine. Enjoy it for another 50 years as it is a great conversation piece!
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It's most likely an 1883-O, I'd leave it as is. The government didn't start dumping CC dollars until the early 1970's.
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westernsky:A good machinist can cut this thing down to size and acetone and time can do the rest.

Yeah that's what I was going to do,before I was talked out of it.

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I'd just about bet the coin is an 83-O. There were "jillions" of 83-O Morgans in the Treasury releases of the early 1960's. Some super dooper VAM expert should be able to figure it out if you can get high quality photos of the obverse.

Back when this thing was put together 50 years ago EVERYBODY was aware of the scarcity and collectibility of "CC" dollars.
It's most likely not an 83-S as most of the BU ones we see today came out of the Redfield hoard of the 1970's

The only reason I thought that it was a CC is because it says that it is a Colorado dollar on the back.
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There was no Denver mint in 1883, so the term "Colorado Dollar" could conceivably be meant to refer to the fact that some silver for making dollars came from Colorado mines, but probably just to the fact that the big cartwheels only really circulated in the Mountain West.
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