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No Such Thing--Blundered Dei -1858 20c

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I have never seen a photo example anywhere on the internet at all--auctions---museums etc. I met a person once who said he had one---the only one he was aware of---and then he was gone. Still searching after 4 years.
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I think that "blundered" is a misnomer. I have always heard it called an alignment mark to position the dies correctly. Now, maybe the working die or the punch that made the working die broke/chipped and caused what we all can recognize as a "blundered die" but I've never seen one. All I've ever seen is a very linear mark at the denticle above the "I". There was one on ebay a week or two ago and I've seen 5-06 of them on there over the last year or so. Here is one on ebay now:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1858-20-Cen...em35e8cd74d2
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Blundered or dropped letters appear with frequency on the coinage of 1858 not just on the 20 cents. During the mid 1800s period it is also encountered with frequency in US coinage. Consult the Fivaz Stanton Cherry Pickers Guide for more information.
Whenever I am looking at 1858 coinage of Provincial Canada I always look for varieties there are LOTS of them.
My Take on the "Blundered I " is that it is indeed a misplaced digit or letter probably of a different font (punch)style intended for use on either a British or other colonial issue. With die steel and other materials being rather expensive The Royal Mint just continued on using materials until they finally were literal unusable. We have sold 4 or 5 of these Twenty Cents over the past years. They are interesting but not RARE . Also check out the same anomaly in a different position 311335738350 ebay listing
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The 1858 20c blundered I in DEI does not exist.

A huge mistake in the Charlton guide (one of many) that gets perpetuated with every new edition.

I have about 10-15 each of the blundered I in VICTORIA and GRATIA, none in DEI.

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Interesting observation on the DEI for the 20c. I have not seen one either.
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I still think that the "I" in Gratia is an alignment marker because of the shape and symetry. Those on Dei and Vicky are plundered or grossly misstruck repunches.
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A huge mistake in the Charlton guide (one of many) that gets perpetuated with every new edition


Gosh...!!..Maybe someone will right a book here...soon..
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