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1942/1- D FSB Mercury Dime Ch/Bu - Grading Assistance

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 Posted 05/10/2015  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get the vibes that there is some confusion between 'FSB' and 'FB'. Some of that confusion exists in my mind as well.

I prefer the term 'FB' = Full Bands, where the tops of ALL of the bands, being fully separated for ALL of their length, and have a top to each of them, something like the top of a loaf of bread.

'FSB' simply means Fully Split Bands, with no reference to the tops of them.

Perhaps these factors will be considered when it is graded by a TPG. If it is an overdate, I can see the necessity as to why it needs to be graded so accurately by a TPG and for a completely truthful opinion third party opinion.

If I was the TPG'er, I would be very circumspect about authentic opinion on the overdate and the grade, because I could see the possibility that I may be legally challenged further down the track, if a dispute were to arise. I would need to be very sure that it is indeed an overdate.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  04:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
...confusion between 'FSB' and 'FB'.


For the dime to qualify under the FB (Full Band) designation the 'center' bands (the highest peak of the reverse devices) must have both 'center' horizontal lines thoroughly separated with both being "elevated and convex (or arched), very similar in concept to a hypothetically filled-in great arch as seen in the city of St. Louis":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatew..._cropped.jpg

Both of these 'center' lines must be thoroughly intact with no evidence of discontinuity anywhere. If both of these 'center' lines display a perpendicular ding/indentation, for instance, the FB portrayal would no long apply.

The big bucks FB classification applies primarily to the 64/65 and above grades with lower mint state designations relevant to some of the lower mintage dates and varieties. Any non-MS FB specimens generally have a significantly lower premium.

I personally like to envision the FSB (full split band), on the other hand, as if the aforementioned great arch had a horizontal pedestrian bridge built across it connecting both sides about half way up; in this scenario the humped section of the arch beginning at both bridge connecting points is missing very similar to a flattop haircut:


1942/1--D-FSB-Mercury-Dime-Ch/Bu----Grading-Assistance

I hope I haven't now destroyed anyone's intimate memories of their vacation tour of the arch of St. Louis by inserting some guy's haircut.

I took 'some' of this information from CoinFacts and quotes from Bill Fivaz himself made back in 2011.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guessing the coin wasn't an overdate since we haven't heard a peep from him in over 2 months.
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It's been longer than 2 months, last visit was May of 2015. The photos provided on page 2 indicated to a few here that it wasn't the overdate.

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