1967 Quarter With A Strange Line On Reverse

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teachmind111 Valued Member United States 290 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 08:46 am the line going top to bottom on your left on the reverse side, I have examined it and I know it was not a scratch but some line printed in to the quarter cause it inverse and has no sharp edges and it is a single line no breaks anywhere. On the front it looks like rust of maybe copper, should I see if it comes off. can it be? the year 1967 the seven looks as if it is DD? Report this Post to the Staff

ChildOfTheWheat Pillar of the Community United States 5828 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 09:45 am I'd say the line is PMD. Not a DDO IMHO Report this Post to the Staff
koinpro Pillar of the Community United States 1781 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 09:48 am This coin has seen better times. Appears that it may have been in a parking lot (or similar) for a short time and got a trifle damaged. That is a scratch on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
teachmind111 Valued Member United States 290 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 10:46 am yeah, thank you guys it just didn't make any scene of being a scratch but okay off to hunt Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 10:48 am If it were a die issue, then the line would stop at the rim. But this continues over both rims past the edges of the coin. I would like to see the lower part of the trench. If it is all the depth, it might be a struck through wire? It it is irregular on the bottom part of the trench, then it maybe a coin scratch? Note on the example when something firm can cause ridges while it is scratching the surface? The stronger line you can actually see the metal striations in the line. While a light line does not show it. Note on a struck through a piece of wire the consistant trench and no metal striations showing. On a struck through wire, on my coin it shows the wire falling over the edge. I have seen it fall over both edges and continue on the opposite site. But the most convincing part is the end of the wire in the central area. (on "TE" on UNITED) That shows the end part of the wire. Another point to be watchful of is the edges of the trench. If they make the area rounded upward, then it a coin scratch. If they are flat, then they are a struck through error. I'm not saying what it is at this point as the images don't show what I would like to see. So a close up the trench might show me more? Report this Post to the Staff
koinpro Pillar of the Community United States 1781 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 11:27 am Teach, if you look at your second image you can clearly see that the the line is recessed with a ridge of chased metal predominantly to its left. This is a surefire indication of a PMD scratch. If it was struck through wire or similar, the ridge would not be there. Since the die is forming the design next to the scratch (and of course everywhere else) a ridge cannot form. See the 1947-S Lincoln Cent below. Notice there is no raised raised ridge of metal next to the recessed area of the strike-thru. The same is true of the 1964-D Jefferson nickel struck through some kind of wire-like debris. Click Image To Enlarge Coin submitted by Robert Pelletier Coin submitted by Don Barkheimer Edited by koinpro 05/09/2015 11:29 am Report this Post to the Staff
teachmind111 Valued Member United States 290 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 11:32 am Report this Post to the Staff
teachmind111 Valued Member United States 290 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 11:56 am Report this Post to the Staff
koinpro Pillar of the Community United States 1781 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 12:19 pm Teach, Your latest photos, while blurry, are good enough to put the nail in the coffin. However, the scratch wrapping around the rim is not always a positive indicator of a scratch. Wire can be struck on the face of a coin and rim. However, your coin is clearly a PMD scratch. Click Image To Enlarge Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 12:20 pm Thanks for the extra images. As Ken mentioned, it is PSD. The one image showed me what I needed to see: I added it to my image files. Report this Post to the Staff
koinpro Pillar of the Community United States 1781 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 12:22 pm Coop, Nice layout! Report this Post to the Staff
teachmind111 Valued Member United States 290 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 12:34 pm yeah thanks guys these photos are getting tough to capture thanks again good luck Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 12:50 pm All here learned something new. More detective work for searching coins. Report this Post to the Staff
koinpro Pillar of the Community United States 1781 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 4:14 pm Teach, Just stay at it and your images will get better. When I look at some of the images I took in the 1980s when I first set up for coin photography, I cringe! Report this Post to the Staff
teachmind111 Valued Member United States 290 Posts	Posted 05/09/2015 7:18 pm I will and I am going to dedicate some of my life to this. Plus this hobby you cant lose even if its not what you expect its still worth what you pay for. lol Report this Post to the Staff
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