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China Coins With Square Holes

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 Posted 05/11/2015  06:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add filip to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am not sure are these original or fakes... they look very rough... I am not sure are they worth of further investigation. Any help or tips? :) Thank you in advance!

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 Posted 05/11/2015  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first three (all but bottom right) are actually Japanese. I can;t tell if they are genuine or not - if they are, then they seem to have at least been very harshly cleaned.

The one at bottom right is not a genuine coin. The obverse inscription is the same as that of a Chinese cash of the Qianlong emperor, but the style is wrong and no genuine cash coins depict creatures on the back. This is a modern good-luck-charm piece.
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 Posted 05/11/2015  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add filip to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much!
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I don't think the japanese ones are genuine either... the surfaces seem grainy and cast, I think real ones were struck, judging by one I have myself. Of course, I can be wrong.
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The genuine Japanese cash were cast, but they don't look like that. Unless the picture is just very poor quality, I really want to condemn them as fakes. The surface texture is just all wrong.
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I think they are genuine however they are cleaned. These are normally cast in iron but there are some that were cast in bronze alloy. I'm certain these photos are scanned and therefore they may look odd.

The last coin is based on a fantasy era "Chien Lung" which if it is genuine is cast in 1736 to 1795. This however is not genuine because there was never such a coin issued with the dragon image.
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Twenty years ago, I was buying cash coins for Twenty Cent each.
I had no idea if they were genuine or not. However, at that price, that issue did not worry me very much.
I also hadn't a clue at that time how to identify them!
I have since taken all of them to a good dealer friend of mine who has been in the business with ancient coins for at least 30 years. His opinion was, that they were all genuine.

I bought a copy of Schjoth and subsequently identified them all. As such, they would have a current market value typically of between $5 and $10 each. I have most dynasties and Emperors, with about half of the Reign Titles, covering around the last 2,000 years.
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