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1920-P Mercury Dime Clashed Die?

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 Posted 03/23/2016  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What I need to know is: In your opinion, would you consider this a major die clash? (Or at least significant enough to receive attribution as such?)

It is a strong die clash, but die clashes are considered to be minor errors and the TPG don't normally mention them.
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 Posted 03/24/2016  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At this point, have the buyer send back the coin and have the money refunded. Paypal will side with the TPG for not label it as a error, I would move on.

If you had it send to ANACS, I think you have a better chance having them label that is strong die clash.
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 Posted 03/24/2016  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The buyer quoted me two options:

1. "I crack the coin out of the holder and send it back to you for a full $100 refund.(Which will most likely damage the coin in some way if he doesn't melt the welds and gently pry it open.)

2. "I'll be kind and take a $70 refund, eat the loss and keep this MS62 FB. I would choose wisely if I were you." (What does that statement even mean?)

I actually want the coin back now that I have researched it further looking for comparable graded examples from any year of the series.
And from what I have found, this coin is a high grade example of an ADC (Atypical Die Clash) which is rare for the series.
Although profoundly more prominent on the obverse, the reverse also shows obverse features from the die clash, which would make it a bilateral die clash as well.

There was a previous thread a while back on a slabbed 1934 Mercury dime that exhibited a near identical die clash as this one, but the provided link to the ebay listing in it was dead due to old age.(lol). Here is a link to the old thread:

https://goccf.com/t/115316


Anybody remember which TPG slabbed it? (Prongs look NGC to me.) Or how much it sold for?

I just really don't want to take the coin back if he cracks it out of the slab and I'm not agreeing to the partial refund being that a 1920-P MS62 FB currently trends at $57!

I'm pretty sure that even after almost 6 months from POS and all the documentation I've sent in, PayPal will undoubtably side with the buyer...but I'm just not sure how hard of a hit I'm gonna have to take.

Will know by April 17th.
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 Posted 03/24/2016  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the source link where I attained most of the information I learned about die clashes. Awesome site, I highly recommend it!

http://maddieclashes.com/ADC-10c-1918D-01.html
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 Posted 03/24/2016  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How did you word your listing that has him upset ?
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 Posted 03/30/2016  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great News!

The case against me has been dismissed, PayPal ruled in my favor against the buyer stating that the PayPal garuntee does not cover what they deemed to be "Buyer's Remorse" on behalf of the buyer!


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 Posted 03/30/2016  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations, good to see Paypal got it right.
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 Posted 03/31/2016  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice clash

Glad it worked out..

If it came back with the words "clashed die" etc

Crazy some people so interested in wording on the plastic over the coin

like you need the text to see it or without it goes away
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 Posted 03/31/2016  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's because they don't know what they are looking at so they have to have the plastic to tell them what it is. But once the plastic does so they are happy to open their wallets.
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 Posted 04/02/2016  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was also wondering why it took the buyer so long to put in a case like this, glad that it work out in your favor.
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 Posted 04/20/2016  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send him the full purchase price back + shipping + the grading fees. Hoping this guy sides on good morality, he will send it back slabbed. And I'll be next in line to purchase it if it came to it. There's no reason for the silly back and forth business.
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 Posted 04/20/2016  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whoops, I just read the paypal statement. Relieved it worked out in your favor.
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 Posted 10/28/2017  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update......
This guy has been harassing me about this coin for over a year now so I agreed to buy back the coin for the original sales price through ebay and PayPal. I was actually happy to do so after I sent scans of it into MaddieClashes.com and it was classified as a strong genuine atypical die clash and placed in the online catalog as the discovery coin for that year and mintmark! Click on link below to check it out,

http://www.maddieclashes.com/adc-10c-1920-01/

Guy must not have been a fan of variety and error coins, lol.
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 Posted 10/28/2017  11:04 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did he break it out of the slab ?
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 Posted 10/28/2017  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good eye, great clash. Sorry for your troubles.
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