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How Much Is This Coin Worth Please?

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 Posted 12/23/2007  1:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add seandomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi there, below is the pictures of the coin back and front, and was just wondering how much it might be worth. Great site by the way! :)

Thanks!

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 Posted 12/23/2007  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seandomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, if anyone knows what King this coin is and where abouts it was minted? Cheers! :)
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 Posted 12/23/2007  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum! I hope we can help.

The first question that needs to be answered is, "Where is it from?" - because it's not English, even though it was made to look reminiscent of English pennies.

It's from the Low Countries, specifically the Bishopric of Cambrai, in what is now northern France. The giveaway here is the portrait: it's not wearing a crown, it's wearing a bishop's mitre.

In this instance, it's Bishop Enguerrand of Croquoy (1273-1291). The title around the portrait reads + INGERRAND EPC (EPC is short for the Latin episcopus - bishop). The reverse reads, I believe, MON CAMERACEN (abbreviated Latin for "money of Cambrai").

That should answer most of your questions except, of course, "how much". I'm not really sure - none of my price guides cover this area and time period. Closest I could find online is this one on CoinArchives of a later Bishop of Cambrai; that one sold for 120 euros.
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 Posted 12/24/2007  05:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a website that you might contact.

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/andys...dCategory=20
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 Posted 12/24/2007  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seandomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
THankyou very much, much apreciated! Lots of good information! :) I am sure I will be back soon with more!
Thanks again!
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 Posted 01/01/2008  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a fascinating coin! I suppose the similarity to English coins had something to do with the English occupation..?
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 Posted 01/01/2008  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, that area wasn't under English control at the time. It's similarity has more to do with the English penny's dominance as a trade coin in the area, because the English hadn't debased their silver like just about everyone else had. English pennies were the " Trade dollar" of their day, and "wannabes" like the Bishop of Cambrai copied the English coinage, hoping their debased coins would be confused with English ones and accepted at par. The one I linked to above is even more "English-looking".

This coin is a classic "easterling" - a coin from "the east" (ie mainland Europe) which crossed the channel to play havoc with the English monetary system. Eventually that name would lend itself (via ambiguous and tortuous etymology) to the term "sterling silver".
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 Posted 01/02/2008  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Looks like you've managed to fascinate me once again.... "easterling".. sterling! via etymological mutationalisation...
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