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1916 D LWC, Grade Please

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As I am going through photographing my collection, I want to test my grading skills. So, I will post the picture, then my grade, and you guys can be my teachers!

1916 D - I grade XF 40. What do you think? Does the weak O on reverse affect grade?


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The weak "O" is a strike issue and doesn't affect the grade.

I agree with XF-40.



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Really? I'd say VF-30
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In my opinion, there is too much wear on the high spots (especially above the ear) for XF. I think VF-35 is a fair assessment.
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A little too much wear on wheat lines. VF-35
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Wheat lines and grains worn too much for EF.

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VF-35. I think the wear in the wheat lines are from a worn die.
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I'd go 35 for it. Nice looking coin...
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I appreciate and respect all opinions, and am learning. Is the weak strike on the reverse causing the wheat to look worn? The reverse looks like it has much more wear than the obverse, so I assumed it was a mushy strike, and not wear. Appreciate everyone's opinion!
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Is the weak strike on the reverse causing the wheat to look worn?


No, the master hub was re-worked in 1916 and that year, regardless of the mint branch, is known for excellent die states. EF coins will have pretty sharp wheat grains, just some wear on the lines. The grains on this coin are badly worn which indicates the next level of wear.

The only issue on this coin is the failure of the die to fully fill in the area opposite the bust on the reverse (the O in ONE area).
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Thanks Thad, I highly respect your knowledge! Keep teaching.
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One of the signs of a worn reverse die, on a Lincoln Wheat cent, is uneven striking of the, viewers, left wheat ear. Specifically the left side of the left ear.

The hub was worked in 1916. And it is known for great coins; however, all dies wear. And that uneven striking on the left wheat ear is a classic sign of a worn reverse die.
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Looks a bit less than XF40, but nice coin and photo nonetheless.
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One of the signs of a worn reverse die, on a Lincoln Wheat cent, is uneven striking of the, viewers, left wheat ear. Specifically the left side of the left ear.

The hub was worked in 1916. And it is known for great coins; however, all dies wear. And that uneven striking on the left wheat ear is a classic sign of a worn reverse die.


Actually, that's not an indication of a worn die at all. It is caused by non-parallel dies, it is documented a few different books. It typically happens on the RIGHT wheat stalk although I've seen it (very rarely) affecting the left stalk, probably from the Mint over-compensating for right weakness.

Die wear affects all of the coin details on a side, dies do not just wear in one area, they wear everywhere.
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