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I just looked through 984 wheats trying to find a doubled die and came up empty. I found a few other things, but will address them later. Then I looked through an old box of my wife's and found a couple LMCs, including this 1963D. Sure enough, double, but it looked like MD to me. I compared it to DDOs on coppercoins and 1963D-1DO-002 looks almost identical. I don't see the LDS markers though and they don't have earlier markers. Could this be it?

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 Posted 05/26/2015  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the photos you have posted, it looks like a match to 1DO-002. Can you get a straight on shot of the complete date and mint mark?
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Ah, yes, I'll try - it's my iPhone and I have awful lighting (hence the angled shots, for which I apologise). The mm does look to be in the identical position though, I forgot to mention that.

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Nice find. May want to wait for others to confirm it, but it looks like a match to me.
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http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...63Dddo1.html

Looks to be Machine Doubling from your pictures compared to this known 63-d DDO
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That's not the same coin. Check CC's site.
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When I first looked at the coin, I thought MD. That's when I looked at CC's (as I mentioned in the OP) and it looks like this one:

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds

So, is mine just MD that looks like the coin in the link (which would have fooled me into thinking MD for that one too)?
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Yes, it is just Machine Doubling.
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Well guess what. I did an overlay and it is a dead on match for this die number. So it is 1963D-1DO-002. Note on the second image: the lower left edge of the 9 is rounded and not shelf like. They look like machine damaged coins, but it when rounded, they are hub doubled examples. Also deceiving is the lack of enlargement of these examples. So look closely for roundness and flat edge on the areas in question.
It is a CLASS 4 + 8 which are different than the other doubled dies we are used to seeing.
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Looking at the coin in hand, I can see what you mean about the roundness vs shelf-like. Without checking coppercoins, I would have dismissed this one though. Great learning experience and I appreciate the help (a lot).

It seemed ironic that I looked through almost 1000 wheats and found nothing and this was sitting behind me all along.
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Funny you should mention that. I bought a roll of 1960-D small date circulated cents years ago. after several of years I decided to check them. I found a 1960D-1MM-100-1960D-1DO-001 in that circulated roll. The reason I didn't search them right away. I was buying a lot of BU rolls of coins from the show. When they dried up, then I check the roll. I had purchased a BU example a few years earlier. But nice to find one myself.
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1960 quite a year for Lincoln Cent varieties.
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