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Chop Marked Generic Rounds And Bars

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 Posted 05/27/2015  10:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There seem to be some stackers who are planning for the Apocalypse

So when it really hits the fan and you have to barter your silver for whatever goods may be left or you take silver as payment for your goods how will you be sure you are getting what silver.

I see it all the time people saying buy the lowest premium over spot for generic bars and rounds. With all of the fake bars and rounds on Craigslist and ebay years from now how will you know what you are trading in?

Trade dollars circulating in the orient back in the late 19th century were chop marked by merchants to supposedly verify their authenticity and silver content. Anyone think this practice would have to be instituted should it really hit the fan?

Or maybe you would be better off stacking a "recognized" form of bullion like Libertads and Maple Leafs and Eagles But then again 3 or 5 or 100 years from now everyone might own a pocket x-ray scanner to verify the silver content of generic rounds.
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 Posted 05/27/2015  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And how were you planning on powering and maintaining your portable XRF during an apocalypse?

XRF is a surface test for precious metals, so doesn't really work well at spotting fakes that have a thick plating of silver on them. It's pretty useless at detecting Sheffield plated fakes, for example.

In an apocalypse scenario, I would have thought "recognized forms" would be just as likely to be suspected of being counterfeit as "generic" forms, so everything would need to be tested. A "chop" or "shroff mark" system tests for silver-plated fakes and assumes the underlying base-metal will be coppery or brassy in colour.
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 Posted 05/28/2015  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the event of the Apocalypse, the most valuable commodities will be food, water and ammunition. I just don't see precious metals making the cut in such a scenario. People need to eat and they likely won't be willing to trade what they value for pieces of metal.

That said, I do think precious metals (and other commodities) are a good hedge against a significant devaluation of fiat currency. An alternative that you might consider is buying gold bars in assay packaging like the ones pictured below.
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It would take a pretty sophisticated operation to fake the bar and all the packaging. As a bonus, the bars are serial numbered. If they ever get stolen, you can give the serial numbers to the police. There's a decent chance they would get caught at a pawn shop.
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