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 Posted 09/07/2015  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Proof Nut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The final coin in the series designed by Emily S. Damstra should be available through your local dealer soon.

https://silvergoldbull.com/1-oz-201...-silver-coin

Most coin stores carry 38mm capsules (I like the smooth edged slim line ones best) which display nicer than in the original sleeve.

Can't wait to see what the 2016 line-up will be like!
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 Posted 09/07/2015  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does this series have milk spotting? I though someone posted that they are bad for milk spots?
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 Posted 09/07/2015  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The CA one week ago distributed them.
Currently sold out.




I believe nothing change in RCM minting / rinsing process for the bullion coins, so some of them will develop milk spots.
Some listings on ebay shows the 2014 Bald Eagle bullion coin toned (probably due to handling with bare hands).
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 Posted 09/07/2015  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solidifier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sold all my birds coins except for one set...because they all had bad spotting......
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 Posted 09/08/2015  02:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Looney4Numi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems that it all comes down to luck. My RCM Moose bullion coins were perfect, as were the 2011 Timber Wolf coins. However, most of the Grizzly coins were covered in milk spots.

Even some of the British Royal Mint "Year of the Sheep" coins have bad milk spots.

I'm looking forward to the 2016 Australian Kangaroo bullion coins. It will be the first .9999 bullion coin for the Perth Mint. I've never seen a milk spot on any Perth Mint bullion coins.
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 Posted 09/08/2015  05:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Looney4Numi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I forgot to mention that, yes, the birds also have milk spots. That's why I won't be buying any more RCM bullion. If they can't be bothered to rinse them properly, why pay RCM a premium for inferior bullion?

Are you listening RCM? No, I didn't think so.
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 Posted 09/08/2015  06:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm looking forward to the 2016 Australian Kangaroo bullion coins. It will be the first .9999 bullion coin for the Perth Mint. I've never seen a milk spot on any Perth Mint bullion coins.


I like classic Kangaroo design and will pick up a couple.
But....do not really understand the mint's decision to not put it in single capsules, like Kook or Koala. On the video shown, that the coins just have been inserted to the tubes.

And regarding RCM bullion - for us in Canada it demands the smallest premium (same as Austrian Philharmonics), so people buy the bullion for bullion. Knowing this, RCM doesn't care about fine quality.
Btw, they've done a correct step by issuing Proof versions of bullion for collectors (SML, Birds of Prey, Arctic animals), priced lower than regular 1oz coins, but still high.
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 Posted 09/08/2015  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Looney4Numi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And regarding RCM bullion - for us in Canada it demands the smallest premium (same as Austrian Philharmonics), so people buy the bullion for bullion. Knowing this, RCM doesn't care about fine quality.


I know what you're saying, Silveroid, but if I'm buying bullion I'd rather buy sealed one ounce or 10 ounce bars than an RCM Red-Tailed Hawk bullion coin, or other RCM coins that will develop milk spots. I think they should care more about the quality.

Today's price difference per ounce between a bar and an RCM bird coin is approximately $2.78, so if I buy 100 ounces, I save $278 and get to spend it on a numismatic coin. If a person buys 1,000 ounces they'd save $2,780, and they wouldn't have to look at ugly milk spots. Why pay a higher premium for coins that aren't properly processed if all you want is bullion?

Can you tell that I just recently checked some beautiful RCM bullion coins and was disappointed to see the ugly spots? My bars, however, still look shiny and pretty.


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 Posted 09/08/2015  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Will agree with your post.
Even if I would want to buy just bullion silver, will prefer something, that remains good looking.

The milk spots is the reason that I stopped to buy RCM bullion coins as inexpensive animal collection. Only selected designs (off cause part of these coins already developed milk spots).
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Today's price difference per ounce between a bar and an RCM bird coin is approximately $2.78, so if I buy 100 ounces, I save $278 and get to spend it on a numismatic coin. If a person buys 1,000 ounces they'd save $2,780, and they wouldn't have to look at ugly milk spots. Why pay a higher premium for coins that aren't properly processed if all you want is bullion?


I agree about the bars, only thing is you might want to sell a few coins here and there later but if you don't plan on doing this then bars are the way to go if you are just strictly stacking silver.

I guess a mix of bars and a few tubes of coins would work in that case.
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 Posted 09/08/2015  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice action shot of the Great Horned Owl, regardless of
the spotting, I'll get one to go with the other three.
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 Posted 09/08/2015  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'll get one to go with the other three.


Yes, the best in series.

If RCM will not decide to issue additional coins, it will be nice line in the 2013 O Canada box....
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 Posted 09/15/2015  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just received my Great Horned Owl today.
No milkspots.
As Silveroid says, the best of the series.
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 Posted 09/15/2015  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats for the nice coin, Jimmy!
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 Posted 09/15/2015  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Looney4Numi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that the Great Horned Owl coin is the best in the series.

If it develops milk spots over the next year or two, Connoisseurs Jewellery Wipes work well to remove them. It might leave barely detectable scratches, but that's better than milk spots, in my opinion.

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