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That's a violation of ebay's rules, and should be removed. Except ebay doesn't care what their rules state any more.
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Lots of good stuff you miss if you don't read the decision... just the summary from a newspaper article - often written without bothering to read the documents. BTW- the opinions are free to download, although you need a PACER (US Courts e-filing system) account (for casual busybodies like myself, they waive the fees if you don't go over $10 or $15 a quarter) (and there is the per-page charge for the search)

The judge found against PCI (corporate) on all charges, not just the regular fraud, but negligence count AND the RICO count.

There was also quite a bit about the ownership structure - between
Father- Anthony J. Delluniversita
Son- Paul A. Delluniversita


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6. PCA is a New York-based rare coins dealer. It purchases ungraded coins, grades the coins—sometimes through an independent third party grader—and sells the coins to customers.
7. PCA employs a team of sales representatives who solicit customers through a telemarketing operation.
8. PCA failed to follow a number of corporate formalities, including issuing stock, finalizing by-laws, and executing organizational meeting minutes. (Plaintiff's Exhibit 22).
9. Defendant Anthony owns 60% of PCA while his son, Defendant Paul, owns 40% of the company. PCA distributes 60% of its earnings to Anthony and 40% to Paul on a weekly basis.
10. Paul serves as PCA's president, but he is only a "figurehead" or "paper" president and his only responsibility is to make sure that salespersons are on the phone.
11. Anthony manages all PCA operations not handled by Paul, including the training of sales representatives and the setting of coin prices.
12. In November of 2010, Anthony purchased PCI, a coin grading company.
Anthony solely-owned and operated PCI, acting as its only coin grader.
13. Paul was unaware that Anthony was PCI's sole grader and testified that no one at PCA knew that Anthony owned PCI. Anthony testified that he did not inform Paul that he was PCI's sole grader because "it was not his concern."



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15. Anthony sold PCI in December of 2011.


Because of this, the Judge found Anthony's actions were sufficient to pierce the corporate veil, so his 60% of the judgment is personal, while Paul's is not


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52. As previously discussed, Anthony, through PCI and PCA, orchestrated a fraud against Pereida. Anthony used the appearance of PCI as a separate corporation to deceive Pereida into believing that she was purchasing independently-graded coins through PCA. The Court concludes that Plaintiff can pierce PCI and PCA's respective corporate veils to hold Anthony personally liable for the economic and exemplary damages established under the common law fraud claim.
53. The Court concludes that Plaintiff cannot pierce PCI and PCA's respective corporate veils to hold Paul personally liable because he was not aware of or involved in the scheme to defraud Pereida.


That's going to make Thanksgiving and other family occasions a little difficult...

I'm just going to quote one of the three damage awards:


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On the claim for common law fraud, Plaintiff is entitled to recover from PCI and PCA, jointly and severally, the sum of $536,934.00 for economic damages along with pre and post-judgment interest, and court costs of $1,332.45 and may hold Anthony personally liable for these amounts. Plaintiff is also entitled to recover an additional $536,934.00 for exemplary damages—$268,457.00 from PCI and $268,934.00 from PCA—along with post-judgment interest and may hold Anthony personally liable for these amounts.



We now know the 2010-2011 incarnation of PCI. I'm sure buried in the transcripts are the details of who he bought it from (probably DLRC when they shutdown Dominion Grading Service) and who he sold it to (which seems to still be alive - I've seen a 2015 ASE in an PCI slab on ebay).
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3. Paul was unaware that Anthony was PCI's sole grader and testified that no one at PCA knew that Anthony owned PCI. Anthony testified that he did not inform Paul that he was PCI's sole grader because "it was not his concern."

That's hilarious, I can just see everyone rolling their eyes.

.......now for a story about Mother Goose
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You don't think that was the perfect job for a good for nothing son? aAll you had to do was yell <New Jersey accent> get youse useless bums back on the phone youse </New Jersey accent>...
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This can't be good news to the new owners of PCI, who seem to be making a sincere effort to bring the new PCI back to relevance, much like the old PCI was. People (as exemplified here) condemn on name only, without exploring when he bought it, when he operated and when he sold it. Much like the way the reputation of Fender Guitars were destroyed during the CBS ownership years.


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federal prosecutors salvate over Rico cases. They only need to prove little more than collusion to enact it.


THAT, is the problem that I have with RICO, it allows for lazy and incompetent prosecutors to gain convictions without building effective cases. Like the new Homeland Security laws, I have a real problem with laws that eat away at personal liberties and my personal freedoms in order to "get the bad guys"

I, for one, am not willing to trade my personal liberties for security. Or to "dumb down" existing laws in order to make it easier to gain convictions. The laws are there, do your job, get the criminals. That was my only point.

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This can't be good news to the new owners of PCI, who seem to be making a sincere effort to bring the new PCI back to relevance, much like the old PCI was.


You are joking, right? A lot of red flags around the business...

The "new/new" PCI has been in business since early 2013. They've graded less than 8000 coins.

When you email them you never get a response (ok, sample of 1, but we love to overgeneralize here)

They claim ANA membership (using the wrong logo) - which applies only to an individual not a business. And who is the member? "It is a violation of ANA Bylaws & Codes of Ethics for any person to falsely advertise membership in the ANA or continue use of the member logo with expired membership in the Association."

Their website recognizes only IE6 through IE9, nothing more recent (IE9 was released in 2011, IE10 in September 2012).

The BBB logo used to appear on their site (as recently as April 2015), the logo has been removed from the site, but the web pages aren't updated - so it shows up as a broken link.

They claim "VeriSign Secured" and "PayPal verified"

Except VeriSign sold the business to Symantec in 2010, all seals are supposed to be interactive (so you know it's current) not a static .png image.


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Couple updates...

Denco7 - I missed it in the 1st read, but "PCI attorneys" were the Delluniversita's themselves (I missed the pro hac vice - "for this one particular occasion.") request earlier in the docket. Either they're lawyers or pro se (for themselves), I didn't care to spend the 50c to read the application...

The plaintiff filed their proposed damages order on Friday (5 Jun). I want my cake and I want to eat it too... RICO against the individuals/PCA and simple fraud against PCI.


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1. Plaintiff elects to proceed to judgment against Defendants, Anthony J. Delluniversita
("Delluniversita") and PCA Collectibles, Inc. ("PCA"), jointly and severally, pursuant to and
based upon this Court's determination that these Defendants are liable to Plaintiff for violations
of the federal Racketeering Influenced and Criminal Organizations Act ("RICO"). See D.E. 153
at ¶¶ 37 (mail and wire fraud) and 45 (RICO conspiracy). Based upon this election, Plaintiff
seeks entry of a judgment awarding Plaintiff damages in the amount of $1,610,802.00 against Delluniversita and PCA, jointly and severally, along with post-judgment interest, reasonable
attorney's fees of $280,190.00, and court costs of $1,332.45.
2. In addition, Plaintiff elects to proceed to judgment against Defendant PCI Coin Grading,
Inc. ("PCI") based upon the Court's finding on Plaintiff's common law fraud cause of action.
Based upon this election, Plaintiff seeks entry of a judgment awarding Plaintiff economic
damages in the amount of $536,934.00 against PCI, along with pre and post-judgment interest,
and court costs of $1,332.45. Plaintiff further seeks an additional award of $268,457.00 against
PCI for exemplary damages, along with post-judgment interest. Plaintiff requests that the
judgment clarify that Delluniversita is personally liable for the Court's judgment against PCI.


I think this came out of post trial motions about survivability of the case (I didn't bother to read those either).

If on appeal the RICO count is reversed, there is still the simple fraud by PCI in their fake grading

And IIRC there have to be two to conspire (RICO) - and I don't think a sole proprietorship can conspire with itself (although there are stranger findings in law).

Plus the request specifically calls out reserving the right to re-elect if one or the other judgments is reversed.
-----Burton
50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973)
Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA
Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club
Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983)

Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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