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I repost my question here.There was a grade questen https://goccf.com/t/195124 . I took a look at the coin one more time,and I found some strange things on it. 1. Dots on the field. They are raising on the relief. 2. It's like an offset of stars and the rim near the tail. 3. A weak strike some part of the tail. 4. Dots on the field. They are incuse on the relief,but it doesn't look like a hit. Now I have doubts,may be it's the counterfeit coin?      |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Those appear to be cast bubbles on the headrest and they are seen throughout. Leaning towards it being fake indeed.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Do you have a weight in grams?
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Valued Member
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My scales shows 4.14,but the scales isn't very good,it's maybe a little bit wrong. Metall looks a gold, thickness looks ok too.    Edited by Lex1705
06/02/2015 12:01 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Weight is good. How does it compare to a U.S. dime size wise? They should be nearly identical. This is a common date so that's another good thing.
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Pillar of the Community
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Take a high power magnet to it to see if it's magnetic
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Valued Member
Germany
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It in 18mm capsule fits perfectly.I'm sure it's gold anyway.A date is common,that's it,but 20$ 1924 is commont too, however there are a lot of counterfeit 1924. Pic with a 1938 dime.  |
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Valued Member
Germany
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It's not magnetic .It must be thicker with this diametr and weight for magnetic metall.It's 100% not "made in China",maybe middle East even.
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That is definitely fake. Contact Steve Caruso as he will want pictures.
It is die-struck, and it is likely made of gold to foil those using the magnet and weight tests. The roughness of the devices is a dead give-away.
Edited by TypeCoin971793
06/02/2015 5:19 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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In the past when even common date gold $2.50 pieces brought 3 or 4 times melt value there was incentive to fabricate die struck counterfeit quarter eagles from .900 fine gold. Sounds like this may be one of those pieces.
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Made in Lebanon. "back in the day". https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...aawtm8wKOcMQhttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...x9HS4IIRBt8whttps://www.google.com/search?q=leb...3_0QBO&dpr=1These were common counterfeit coins (albiet made of .900 fine gold in the same weight as their genuine counterparts), back in the 70s and 80s. In several denominations. The rather lethal one, to this day, is the $1 coin. It still brings a huge premium over melt. I keep one in my showcase just to show customers how good they are. I just sold (for .900 fine scrap) a nice $20 Lib. a week or so ago; It was a pretty convincing coin in anyone's book. In any event, it was/is a 90% gold coin and worth that in Au, plain and simple. These fake gold issues are out there in huge #s so beware. Edited by rynegold
06/02/2015 10:17 pm
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Valued Member
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Thank you very much!
I've paid not much over melt,but the most sad,that I need to seek this type of quarter one more time(((
I keep all gold in bank and don't look at it often,because of this I didn't notice it earlier.
But I've learned a little new today!
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  This is a Middle East counterfeit coin. I had three LCS take a look at it and they all thought it was real. |
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If you can find somebody with an XRF they can determine the metal composition non-destructively. One of the jewelry buyers had one at ANA2014 in Chicago and was able to determine that my two Lebanese $1 (gifts from my grandfather) were a little under 18kt (one was 72% Au and I don't remember whether the other was 71 or 73%). Basically old jewelry melted and coined and sold on 47th St, back in the day.
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