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Unknown Chinese Coins Different Shapes

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Hello All,

Ive got some chinese coins which I can't figure out which period they are. The shapes are also different. So probably different cash types?


I was wondering if someone can help me out with these..



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The big one is a Chong Ning Zhong Bao, cast during the Northern Song Dynasty from 1102-1106. These are fairly common, and are worth $5-10. You have this one upside down.

The top right one is a Dao Guang Tong Bao cast from 1821-1850. However, this one does not look genuine, based on the shape of the rim. This one is in correct orientation.

The third one I'm not sure about. It could be another Dao Guang Tong Bao (more likely) or a Xuan Tong Tong Bao cast from 1909-1912 (less likely), but I'm not sure. Could you upload another picture of the third one zoomed in and rotated clockwise 90 degrees?
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Just looked at my Hartill guide, and that third coin is indeed a Dao Guang Tong Bao, H-22.623 in case you were wondering.
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Dear Sir,
Thank you alot for these explenations! About the value in cash dimentions. Is the big one a 5 cash coin then? the other an 2 cash and the small one 1 cash coin? Or are these all 1 cash types...

About the maybe fake coin. If the rim is bigger then usual are these always fake in that case?
How do you determine these coins so fast?

Best wishes,
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The large coin is a 10-cash coin.

The other two are both 1-cash coins. The reason the small one is worth the same as a normal-size one is because China was in economic turmoil as a result of the abuse of the opium trade. Inflation occurred and the coins became very small.

The one with the raised rims, after looking at it once again, could be a damaged coin in that the rim was raised artificial means, auch as a spoon or hammer. But all cast Chinese coins made after 589 AD have low, flat rims that are the same height as the characters on the coin. Anything other than that can generally be assumed to be counterfeit.

The answer to your last question, actively collecting Chinese coins and easy access to reference materials greatly help in quick identification.
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