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I was lucky to buy a antoninianus of Aurelius with an error on the reverse.
obv: IMP AURELIANUS AUG , radiate and cuirassed bust right
rev:IOVI CONSER(vatori) , in exergue : * (star) S :emperor standing left receiving globe from Jupiter standing right,lo,g scepter in left hand. Normally , the emperor has a scepter in his left handOnly 4 known coins (3 Verona , 1 Sirmium , have this error.
3,46 gr , 22 mm , pics of the seller and RIConline.
Ric online 2144 . albert

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 Posted 06/08/2015  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice find, this one be a difficult error to spot.
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very nice coin error or no.

i just jumped right in an looked at the picture and couldn't figure out what the error was until I read your description.
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Only 4 known coins


Wow. What a great cherry pic, I don't know if you call it that in ancients but awesome find.
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I love it. An advanced game of spot the difference.
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I was writing to the museum of Vienna and Verona for more information.
Yest albertrday , I received an answer from Vienna.
Dear Mr. Daelemans,

I am delighted to make your acquaintance!
You have a very good eye, and a good choice - which makes a fine collector, I guess.

You have put your finger on a true variant, it would seem.
I find the system of RIC a bit difficult, so I stuck to MIR Aurelianus by Göbl, where there is a clear commitment to reverse types. However, after consulting our collection I find that the version of IOVI CONSER showing the emperor without any scepter is not an error but rather a true variant, because it seems to exist in several officinae; P, S and Q are attested in Vienna. Then, of course, there are the versions with a short and a long scepter.

On your coin, the emperor does not touch the globe at all, I could not find this die! There are several dies of the version with the short scepter, where the emperor does noch handle the globe, but has his hand below Jupiter's.

I am attaching some of the clearer specimens and will put some of them online soon into our new database http://www.ikmk.at/ (a clone of the Berlin database, as you will notice)

My very best Regards from Vienna,
Klaus Vondrovec
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Kunsthistorisches Museum Wien

Dr. Klaus Vondrovec
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Well spotted. What a great and interesting find.
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