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Origin Of Inverted Shield Stamped On Shield Nickel

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 Posted 06/11/2015  12:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eric0304 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Greetings - I have an old Shield nickel with an inverted shield stamped into the front side - I was curious if anyone knows of the origin or purpose of this stamp - see pic.

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 Posted 06/11/2015  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never seen anything like it. Almost looks like something that would be found as part of the design on a hard times or Civil War token.
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Maybe back then it was a profound statement? Very interesting coin.
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The five divots at the top of the shield, along with the six depressed vertical bars in the shield equals 11. There were 11 States that comprised the Confederacy.

I'm gonna guess that the coin was stamped by a disgruntled Southern sympathizer since the counter stamp is upside down as a sign of distress. There has got to be other coins out there that he may have done, too.

Somebody has had to have seen something like this in the past 150 years.

That's my guess and I'm gonna stick with it ..... (Until I can come up with something better!)
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06/11/2015 01:51 am
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 Posted 06/11/2015  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it's just a counterstamp.
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The five divots at the top of the shield, along with the six depressed vertical bars in the shield equals 11. There were 11 States that comprised the Confederacy.

I'm gonna guess that the coin was stamped by a disgruntled Southern sympathizer since the counter stamp is upside down as a sign of distress. There has got to be other coins out there that he may have done, too.

Somebody has had to have seen something like this in the past 150 years.

That's my guess and I'm gonna stick with it ..... (Until I can come up with something better!)
Sounds reasonable enough.
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Further - a close examination of the wear suggest the stamp was put on well after the coin was in circulation. The die used to create the imprint doesn't appear to be something a lay person of that era could easily make without specialized tools - very odd.
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I've not seen this shield before. Brunk and Rulau each listed another shield with the numeral "16" on it. My guess is that these stamps may have been used to make buttons. Westernsky's thought about these being related to the fallen Confederacy is certainly plausible. This shield stamp being carefully placed and inverted, atop the federal shield suggests that a political statement was being made. However, the use of shields on buttons was commonplace back then; especially so, those made for use by fraternal organizations, marching bands, etc. Nickel, being such a hard substance, would be a good way to test the strength of this punch.

While I see maverick pieces like this, being of modest value, the thoughts expressed in this thread well illustrate the "curiosity value" that counterstamped coins possess.
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i have never seen this punch before.(been looking at counterstamps since 1974) But some others gave great thoughts. Cool...
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