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? Best Machine 12 In. Dry And/Or 3 Ft. Wet

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...you will be digging 'up' everything.


This came from another thread but is among the things that I definitely want to avoid doing when metal detecting.

Time is money and lost time should be always be redirected towards searching on more productive ventures.

With that being said these are my desires for Option A:

1) ability to accurately analyze down to at least 12" into dry dirt or sand ensuring that:

a. a piece of metal is not a pull tab, for example, from one of those old style aluminum soda cans.

b. a rock (no matter how small it is) is not just a limestone chunk of junk but a real piece of valuable precious metal worth pursuing.

In other words knowing or visually previewing (if economically feasible) what I'm going after before expending all of the time and energy digging would be excellent.

Please recommend a couple of the better machines capable of doing all of the above while staying within my price range of plus/minus $ 1000.

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I want to put this next requirement for Option B on a separate wish list while still including features 1 a. and 1 b. in my previous post but also adding on the following details/requests.

Although I will not be searching at a coastal beach within a corrosive salt water environment it would be nice to have a machine that meets all of the above requirements in 1 a. and 1 b. of Option A while simultaneously incorporating:

2) the ability to immerse the search coil into up to a 2 ft - 3 ft deep creek or stream without worrying about ruining it from water damage.

In summary, I want to use the hours on my knees knowing (not hoping) that the possibility of locating primarily gold fragments and cylindrical shaped objects(mainly coins...), for example, will be at least an 80% probability after sifting through the dirt or wading through the water in knee high waterproof boots.

I would rather take the initial hit financially on my first capital equipment expenditure with the peace of mind knowing that I am not going to have to upgrade the next year to a better mouse trap with more bells and whistles to keep me happy.

In summary please let me know the type of machines applicable for Option A and Option B costing plus/minus $ 1000 (womb-to-tomb with all related/useful accessories) that would 'fill the bill.' Remember that only Option B would have submersible water abilities but still have dry ground searching capabilities as described above in Option A.

Thanks
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What you want doesn't exist.

But there are one that are close.
A good dirt machine would be a AT-Pro or Gold, I even like a Bounty Hunter Platinum.
Sometimes gold can ring up as a pull tab.

for water, you want a CZ21 or a Excal II

but for every detector, you have to learn how to use it. Some take longer then others.

If you are looking for a machine that tells you exactly what it finds and how deep it is. They don't exist.. some are better then others.

Any you will only be able to learn to use your machine, by digging up everything. That's how you get to know the tones.
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with Daz as the modern day detector is only a hit and miss thing ,
the more you drive them the better they are but you still have to dig every signal as gold sounds like ring pulls,

There are industrial detectors out there if your willing to pay $20,000 and up that may or may not do what your looking for but not to many people are willing to fork out that sort of money for a hobby.
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 Posted 06/12/2015  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A - does not exist

B - any cheapo unit like a garrett or whites usually has a waterproof search coil, but for a fully submersible, Minelab Excal. At Pro, lots of leaky stories.
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he wants to do salt water, so AT-pro would be out of the question.
There are other salt water detectors, but the Excal II and CZ21 seem to be the most widely used. For doing both, I would go with a CZ21.
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...he wants to do salt water


This is incorrect. Along with the previously explained land traits for this machine I'd like to also check out freshwater creeks and streams w/o any coastal saltwater beaches etc.
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mdpmedia.. are you looking for a water proof detector, ie: one that can be submersed?

If so, that opens up a wider range..
Check out this website... it will help you a lot.. also note..retail prices listed are just that, you can usually get them cheaper.
http://www.metaldetectingworld.com/..._index.shtml
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For around $1,000, the Excalibur is the one.

Better would be CTX 3030, used around $1800, new $2300-2500
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CTX3030 does everything you want and more......but you gotta pay to play!
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...are you looking for a water proof detector?


In addition to normal farming fields and log cabin sidewalk areas I was thinking of searching shallow creeks, lake edges, and seldom entrances into oceans: all being up to approx. 2 ft max.

It looks like that CTX3030 is 'totally' submersible which would be overkill price-wise for what I think I'm looking for.

You know what would be really neat is to have some sort readout on the screen that would indicate a target object's 2D dimensions, depth, and if it is PM or ferrous-type metals.

What really gets me confused is every other dealer recommending something different for accomplishing the same end objective.
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because there is not really one machine designed to do all things you want.

I think when you say 3 ft of water, you want it to work in 3 feet of water, not see 'through' 3 feet of water.
if that is the case, get a AT Pro.
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