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1913 D Lincoln Wheatie - PMD Or Mint Error?

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Another one of grandpa's coins. Is that big smudge across Lincolns face PMD (and if so, what in the world could have caused it?) or do you guys think it was caused during minting?



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 Posted 06/20/2015  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gymcoachdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
interesting that whatever caused it, didn't seem to affect the reverse. Not sure, but makes me lean toward error.
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I want to say grease but the fact that the outside edge is raised by the forehead it points me towards PMD. But wait for an expert
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 Posted 06/20/2015  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add d_dob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I was wondering about that too gymcoachdon. Why the reverse wasn't affected
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 Posted 06/20/2015  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it deep?
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It's fairly deep but not really so deep that it would necessarily affect the reverse. Maybe I should weigh it? But I only have a .1 gram readability scale
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Because the metal is pushed up like that, I think it got squashed pretty hard.
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 Posted 06/20/2015  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add d_dob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would think SilverStackerKid, but, then you would think the reverse would be affected, too?
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Yep, squashed (probably deliberately) against a protected reverse, my best guess. Quite a sight!
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Because it did not hit hard enough to push metal inward, only to push it outward.
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perhaps someone tried to melt mr. president?
Feel free to call me Will.
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I don't think it would look like that. The reverse would also look affected if it was effected by heat. Unless you were sarcastic or something.
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Depending on the weight, a tool like this could have removed metal without damaging the reverse and if dull would have pushed up some metal at the edge.
Why , would be a different issue

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A routing bit on a dremal tool is what's in that picture. Maybe.. the why we would never know.
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Note on the reverse, the rim is out of round. PSD
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Coop, do you have an educated guess as to what might have caused that?
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