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Bought this coin a few days ago. I'm posting it in this forum because I'm considering it colonial coinage. There is a high probability this coin was plopped down on merchant counters almost anywhere in the colonial states and territories in North America. I really liked the piece and thought it was priced fairly. Interested in any comments and thoughts about it. Grade, authenticity, history, value etc. The color came out a little blue in my pics. It is more battleship grey. Not high grade, but an honest coin none the less.   |
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There is surprisingly little interest in these I guess.
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United States
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I like them, just don't know how to grade them. Unappreciated historical colonial US (and elsewhere) coin. To me, it's much more related to US history than some of the silly "colonial" coins that are collected as such, like the woods hibernias (not US colonial) and some tokens from as late as the 1820's.
As for your example, I know its nice because you can still read the ribbons on the pillars, I just don't know the grade.
Edited by EFLargeCents
06/26/2015 1:49 pm
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Perhaps I'm stepping on a moderator's toes in saying this, but I think it's a bit of the proverbial "slippery slope" to be classifying this as colonial coinage simply on the basis that such once circulated in the present day United States. The fact is, they were a common medium of exchange all over the world; it could just as easily never seen these shores until after American independence was won, or even until it became collectible. The standing convention in numismatics is generally to categorize coinage by reference to the governmental authority under which it was issued. I'd also remark that you'll likely get the most authoritative evaluation putting up such under "World Coins" where the experts in these primarily peruse postings.
Colligo ergo sum
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Lucky Cuss, feel free to request deletion of this post. I'm not sure what slope you are afraid of slipping down, but if it's one that means we will begin seeing more of these on the" Classic US coins" section of the forum, I'm personally not offended. Colonial coins were included in the list of acceptable items in this forum. This coin was legal tender until 1857, so I figured it wasn't too much of a stretch. Yes, it is a grey area. As I said, mods, feel free to remove it. It hasn't generated much interest anyway. I have posted coins like this in the world coins section and have gotten little if any response. So the results were basically the same. |
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I posted a 1749 halfpenny and farthing and got the same response as you are getting here (and they are linked to the US colonies through act of parliament). I don't even bother posting in the UK or World forums anymore.
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EFLargeCents, I hear ya. The only thing I can say about the lack of interest is it helps prices stay low on these pieces. This piece was priced at what I consider to be very low for what it is. That is a good thing.
I posted about 4 or 5 things in the world section of the forum and get maybe one response in a few days or so. So, I admit, that was part of my motivation for posting it here.
Holding this coin raw in hand is really a great feeling.
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I like them, just don't know how to grade them. I'm a huge fan of pre-USA coins but I really don't know much about them. I want to, but I don't. I also don't feel comfortable grading them. I'm not familiar with the minting weaknesses and the problems that may have occurred during the minting at the mints that produced them. That's why I haven't given you a grade. Many folks, me included, appreciate you posting these coins, but you may not get the grading results you're looking for. These coins are prior to our (my) knowledge base! Edited by Moe145
06/28/2015 12:59 pm
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I'll guess VG10. Looks problem free too!
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Moe145, I'm in about the same boat as you when it comes to knowledge about these. Buying things I'm ignorant about isn't usually my style. Lately I have been seeing a few of these at my LCS and I blindly buy them strictly because I like them. When I buy US coins, I'm very methodical. I place my own grade on every potential purchase, look for any signs of cleaning or other issues, compare to the assigned grade and value and bargain from there. OLCoins, sounds like a fair assessment. Thanks for the opinion! |
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I would grade your Mexico mint pillar dollar at about Fine 15 perhaps VF20. It also has the 'right' look in my opinion, and at first glance the coin appears real and not a fake. However, this type has apparently been so often counterfeited that for a true assessment of whether real or not an expert is needed.
Weight, edge device and even metal composition are things the experts
will consider when assessing the coin.
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Nice pickup... Also, good thing its an o/m mintmark and not the dreaded counterfit o/s mm for the year  |
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Nice coin. I too am no pro at grading these but Fine sounds right to me. Weight and edge pics are for sure needed to comment on genuine or not. I have been trying to educate myself more on 1700-1800 Spanish/American coinage lately. Swamperbob and others have been a huge help in the World coins section of CCF.
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