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1877 S Trade Dollar

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Real or Fake? Its got some gold or gilded paint on it. Got this on ebay posted it on facebook in one of the coin groups lot of people liked it; had one or two people say it was fake,another said the mint mark gives it away. I tested it with a magnet it didn't stick to the coin. Also another said I should get it weighed ill try to do that tomorrow. What do all of you think? Condition may be a lil rough but still looks cool to me.

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Looks real
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Looks OK to me. Assume it isn't really oval.
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I see nothing that screams fake....definitely test weight of it....Chinese counterfeits are getting better and harder to spot these days
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My first thought was real, but won't bet on it.
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It appears real to me. Soak that thing in acetone stat!
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I'm not that familiar with Trade dollars other than their highly counterfeited .
IMHO I'm not good with it.
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Thanks for all the info everybody.
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My default is to assume that any Trade dollar not in reputable TPG plastic is fake, and (not) bid accordingly, in other words, bid any money I don't care if I lose. If I see one for a hundred bucks and it looks real enough and is from a reputable seller, I might take a shot on it just as a gamble, because sometimes you do get lucky.

The reverse die crack is often diagnostic of a fake, but your coin has a Type 2 obverse & reverse, which is correct for 1877, and the detail on the front rocks and rear feathers is correctly detailed instead of flat.

Another dead giveaway: Look at the coin, facing up, just like in your first photo. Take it, and flip it over to the other side without rotating it. In a real Trade, the coin's reverse will be upside-down to you (coin alignment); in a fake Trade, the coin's reverse will be right side up to you (medal alignment.)

The fact that it's not magnetic is good, and the weight should be around 27g.

If you have a 27g, non magnetic, type 2/type 2 1877-S Trade dollar with coin orientation, it's probably real; it looks plated, ex-Jewelry, probably ex-Orient. Either that or the Chinese have REALLY stepped up the game.

I am going to vote with the "real" camp even without your testing; but if you could weigh it, or tell us the orientation, that would be great.






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Had it tested and weighed today its the real thing.
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highly likely real
the condition outside of the problems are XF and a nice patina to boot
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This would be a strange-looking thing for even the Chinese to fake.
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True, Coinfrog, but they are going to great lengths now to disguise the giveaway fake surfaces.
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its got great patina. Awesome coin.
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