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1942/1 D Dime Grading Help

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 Posted 07/19/2015  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS seem to be more sale-able.I like this coin. I'm in for AU-58!
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 Posted 07/19/2015  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you ever plan to resell the coin, PCGS. If you don't plan on selling it any time soon, PCGS, ANACS, NGC are all fine. There are people who swear by SEGS and ICG but I have no experience there.

It's not that PCGS is any better than the others; but some buyers pay a premium for PCGS slabs vs. the other TPG's.

Be prepared that the coin might come back in a details slab, any which way.
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 Posted 07/19/2015  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The slab market has narrowed to PCGS and NGC/PMG, clearly. Unless you really know what you're doing, the slabs of all other services (ANACS, SEGS, IGC) will always bring a discount, with good reason.
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CAC has thrown a new level of price disparity into the mix, to boot. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn't start the CACAC - CAC Authentication Certification - just to triple-check that CAC's double-check of the TPG's grade is, in fact, accurate. We'll REALLY get those CACA-certified coins up into the stratosphere!

Of course, I would probably end up quitting to start the CACACAC....
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 Posted 07/20/2015  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I went with ngc because of price. I also sent a 1901 p Morgan that a CAC grader said was typical au 58 slider I'll be very happy if it comes back that but he said if you can get it in a 60 holder I'll give you $1200 which means he thinks there is a slight chance which gives me hope. Thanks for all you opinions as I've said sometimes newcomers get to learn here and I've learned a few things myself.
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The CAC thing is just another calculated level to lead us toward the stars. Their criteria are just as subjective as those of any other grading service - it's the perfect skimming business plan.

Meanwhile, despite condoning every manner of sneaky roll-search listings and ridiculous come-ons for fradulent and overgraded coins, E-bay has now prohibited the listing of non-PCGS/PMG slabbed paper currency (from CGA and others) in what has to be height of hypocrisy.
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 Posted 07/23/2015  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found this anacs graded au 58 details scratched which makes me believe I'm at ms. Don't get me wrong I really do appreciate your opinion. As we know the TPG graders are human and some have no business being in that business.

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That's not an AU-58. That's more of an EF-40/45. It's mistakes like these that keep ANACS out of PCGS and NGC credibility.
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Your coin, I have at AU58.

The one above, VF35...Ouch!
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If that was in an ANACS slab at AU-58 I'd love to know the cert #, my money's on fake slab or a "crack and repack" job with a lower grade coin. Especially if it's the older white holder with green logo/black label.

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 Posted 08/20/2015  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
my coin should be back this week but in the meantime shouldn't mine be close to this pcgs ms 62 fb

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shouldn't mine be close to this pcgs ms 62 fb


just seeing this thread for the first time and my initial thought on your coin is that if were a common date, PCGS would, in all likelihood, give a details grade with the scratches. However with the over-date it will get leniency for those scratches IMO and receive a grade BUT there is a good chance they hit it with AU58 as a result versus an MS designation.

Based on the flow lines on the reverse of your coin and even some very evident ones on the obverse, this is clearly a sign of an MS coin that has not had very much handling. I think the obverse relief shows signs of a weak strike around the hairline and wing.

Again, though, I am taking the under on this one due to the scratches and I think it goes AU58.

Either way, I wish I had it in my showcase! Great coin. Best of luck.
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Yours looks AU 58, and I would send it to PCGS or NGC
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