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Well CHD. If PCGS graded it as not a proof, they are wrong.
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 no idea but I do like the look of this trime |
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Westcoin, there is no need to reveal it. jdiablo30 already gave it away...
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How do you tell a proof from a business strike, such as this?
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The coin certainly looks like a proof strike at first glance, I'm unfamiliar with any die markers that distinguish a proof from a business strike (if there are any).
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**THE REVEAL**This 1872 in NOT a proof, it is the second finest known Three Cent trime I silver, an e-Simpson collection piece, the Simpson piece is now the MS67+ It is currently being offered to the public through Legend Coins, here is what they have to say about it; 3CS 1872 PCGS MS67 CAC A MONSTER GEM! $60,000.00 Having built the all time FINEST EVER MS 3CS Set-the Law Simpson Collection, we have searched all over to find the VERY BEST 3CS pieces. This piece is second finest. Only the Simpson coin-an MS67+ is better. ANY 1872 MS64 or higher 3CS is an exceptionally RARE coin. Using a strong glass you can see some light die clashing which proves out it being an MS vs a Proof. There are mirrored surfaces on both sides-that is to be expected from the tiny mintage. A phenomenal coating of light gold covers the centers while the peripheries are framed by a gorgeous ring of blue/violet colors on the obverse. The reverse is an even pale green/light blue/gold combo. Of course the colors are totally original. Every detail is pinpoint sharp in strike and has thick frost. The eye appeal is like the rarity-tremendous! Only 1000 pieces were ever minted. PCSG 2, NGC 1, CAC 1 (we believe the Simpson coin still shows as the other MS67 even though it is a MS67+). This coin sold in auction for $54,050.00 02/2015. At that time we were contemplating starting another MS set. We have since decided not to. This coin deserves to be placed in a remarkable collection! Once this coin is placed, chances are you will never have a shot at anything even close. So yes JDiablo and Coin Hunting Drew both called it correctly as a business strike, though it's not a designated PL, it certainly looks like one. Heritage has even larger photos, I looked for a long time before I could see the clash marks, but they are there, the incredible toning hides them pretty well. I decided to make this coin a grading guessing game, as even I was almost fooled by it, in hand I'm sure I would still be fooled, until I really looked at it with strong magnification. Struck from very new dies that were at the least polished right before the striking occurred, giving it a very proof like look. A nice coin for a learning lesson, first me for about a half hour, then you guys and gals for a couple of days here at CCF.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I was fooled by this coin, for about an hour, Heritage has even larger photos, where I was able to finally see the clashing, barely. I figured this would be a good learning experience, as I don't get fooled that often, so I thought, why not see how many CCF collectors are also tricked. I've had a few super gem proof type coins in my past, and a few Mint State ones, maybe not "MONSTERS" like this one, but some of the 1860-1890 proofs vs. business strike can be tough, 1872 Two Cent Pieces come to mind. This coin was struck from recently polished dies and is very flashy with proof like surfaces because of it. The rims are not revealed as much as I would like to see them, just how squared off are they? The silver trime is so small would the edge even be a good pick up point? Especially since it is not reeded. Anyways thanks for participating I hope you learned a bit, I know I did after researching this coin, besides it's just nice eye candy, if anyone here wants to buy it and gift it to me, I certainly have no objection to that!  "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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What a lovely and fantastic piece....still trying to pick my jaw up off the floor!
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Posted 07/07/2015 7:22 pm
